# Crafting arrows in .9 ma

**URL:** <https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/crafting-arrows-in-9-ma/4314>\
**Category:** The Bunker\
**Created:** [November 30, 2013, 4:09pm UTC](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/crafting-arrows-in-9-ma/4314 "2013-11-30T16:09:14Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 17\
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**Author:** ![youtoo](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/y/779978/32.png) [@youtoo](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/u/youtoo)\
**Post date:** [November 30, 2013, 4:09pm UTC](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/crafting-arrows-in-9-ma/4314/1 "2013-11-30T16:09:14Z")

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I can make a self bow and a wood shaft, but it looks like I need level 1 archery to make an arrow. This means I either need to find arrows, disarm crossbow traps, or find an archery book to get into archery in .9 right? i had stopped taking archery to start since you didnt need archery 1 anymore to get arrows and a bow.

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**Author:** ![Inadequate](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/b9e5f3/32.png) [@Inadequate](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/u/Inadequate)\
**Post date:** [November 30, 2013, 4:24pm UTC](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/crafting-arrows-in-9-ma/4314/2 "2013-11-30T16:24:25Z")

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Just take potshots at squirrels or something with wood shafts until you reach level 1.

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**Author:** ![youtoo](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/y/779978/32.png) [@youtoo](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/u/youtoo)\
**Post date:** [November 30, 2013, 4:42pm UTC](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/crafting-arrows-in-9-ma/4314/3 "2013-11-30T16:42:08Z")

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didnt realize you could shoot shafts

thanks. bleh. we will see if i can actually hit t hem.

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**Author:** ![General\_Patton](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/discourse.cataclysmdda.org/general_patton/32/7894_2.png) [@General\_Patton](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/u/General_Patton)\
**Post date:** [November 30, 2013, 11:14pm UTC](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/crafting-arrows-in-9-ma/4314/4 "2013-11-30T23:14:10Z")

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Just fire at the ground. Same goes for training throwing.

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**Author:** ![Nav](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/6a8cbe/32.png) [@Nav](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/u/Nav)\
**Post date:** [December 1, 2013, 3:37am UTC](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/crafting-arrows-in-9-ma/4314/5 "2013-12-01T03:37:24Z")

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Make hundreds or arrow shafts. Find a horde. Shoot at the horde. Run backwards.

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**Author:** ![Oragepoilu](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/4da419/32.png) [@Oragepoilu](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/u/Oragepoilu)\
**Post date:** [December 1, 2013, 4:35pm UTC](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/crafting-arrows-in-9-ma/4314/6 "2013-12-01T16:35:43Z")

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Fast learning is done by shooting at a wall for more convenience, or at ground. The problem by shooting at ground is that depend of the version you may detroy your own arrow by shooting at them while they are already at ground, and would need that you pick up the arrow each time you fire it.

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**Author:** ![Inadequate](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/b9e5f3/32.png) [@Inadequate](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/u/Inadequate)\
**Post date:** [December 1, 2013, 4:40pm UTC](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/crafting-arrows-in-9-ma/4314/7 "2013-12-01T16:40:24Z")

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Yeah, I didn’t want to mention it but you can raise your archery skill without shooting at enemies. Of course, now we’ll have people clamouring for it to be taken out.

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**Author:** ![Taraq](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/c57346/32.png) [@Taraq](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/u/Taraq)\
**Post date:** [December 1, 2013, 5:38pm UTC](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/crafting-arrows-in-9-ma/4314/8 "2013-12-01T17:38:47Z")

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> [@Inadequate](#):
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> Yeah, I didn’t want to mention it but you can raise your archery skill without shooting at enemies. Of course, now we’ll have people clamouring for it to be taken out.

It does make sense though. Target practice is target practice no matter what you practice on.

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**Author:** ![infectedmochi](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/discourse.cataclysmdda.org/infectedmochi/32/206_2.png) [@infectedmochi](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/u/infectedmochi)\
**Post date:** [December 2, 2013, 1:13am UTC](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/crafting-arrows-in-9-ma/4314/9 "2013-12-02T01:13:52Z")

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Having a cap would be nice though, as suggested in the cooking thread that doing 1 thing over and over shouldn’t raise your skill infinitely. Other than that I agree that target practice is logical and I can’t see why this would be removed just because people praised it.

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**Author:** ![youtoo](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/y/779978/32.png) [@youtoo](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/u/youtoo)\
**Post date:** [December 2, 2013, 7:00pm UTC](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/crafting-arrows-in-9-ma/4314/10 "2013-12-02T19:00:19Z")

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you shouldnt be able to improve skills by shooting at the ground. that is lame. might as well just have a macro.

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**Author:** ![Taraq](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/c57346/32.png) [@Taraq](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/u/Taraq)\
**Post date:** [December 3, 2013, 12:47am UTC](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/crafting-arrows-in-9-ma/4314/11 "2013-12-03T00:47:07Z")

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> [@youtoo](#):
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> you shouldnt be able to improve skills by shooting at the ground. that is lame. might as well just have a macro.

Well, realistically that’s how you get good at archery. There’s only so many people who’ll go chase after zombies to level up their skills. Game balance wise it should absolutely be capped and be less easy, but it does make sense.

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**Author:** ![Paquito](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/d9b06d/32.png) [@Paquito](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/u/Paquito)\
**Post date:** [December 3, 2013, 4:03pm UTC](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/crafting-arrows-in-9-ma/4314/12 "2013-12-03T16:03:29Z")

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What kind of damage do you get per hit using archery? A good hit with my wooden javelin (thrown) does about 20-40 on average at throwing level 8

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**Author:** ![Oragepoilu](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/4da419/32.png) [@Oragepoilu](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/u/Oragepoilu)\
**Post date:** [December 3, 2013, 4:09pm UTC](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/crafting-arrows-in-9-ma/4314/13 "2013-12-03T16:09:53Z")

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Archery can go with skill lvl 8 without effort around 50damage, with over 200 when you do an headshot (with is really common, is your target have an head and is close)

But it’s totally off topic.

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**Author:** ![Cherry](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/discourse.cataclysmdda.org/cherry/32/230_2.png) [@Cherry](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/u/Cherry)\
**Post date:** [December 4, 2013, 6:40pm UTC](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/crafting-arrows-in-9-ma/4314/14 "2013-12-04T18:40:21Z")

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Repeater crossbow is still pretty good.  
Lvl 8 archery lvl 8 marksmanship  
Average 25 damage on burstfire, 50 damage on headshots.  
15 xbow wood bolts only need a knife and a piece of wood + 5 minutes.  
Metal bolts are slightly better, but metal is not as abundent and way heavier. (Unless you break cars all the time)

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**Author:** ![FunsizeNinja123](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/discourse.cataclysmdda.org/funsizeninja123/32/118_2.png) [@FunsizeNinja123](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/u/FunsizeNinja123)\
**Post date:** [December 4, 2013, 6:43pm UTC](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/crafting-arrows-in-9-ma/4314/15 "2013-12-04T18:43:36Z")

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> [@Cherry](#):
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> Metal bolts are slightly better, but metal is not as abundent and way heavier. (Unless you break cars all the time)

This is what I do to get metal in Cata.

Go loot a hardware store, take out all of the stuff you need/want.

If you don’t have a hardware store, go look at an abandoned store front.

Start {s}mashing up all of the display racks. Then take the metal.

If the hardware store has a metal compactor and you need a specific metal, use it.

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**Author:** ![Inadequate](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/b9e5f3/32.png) [@Inadequate](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/u/Inadequate)\
**Post date:** [December 4, 2013, 6:49pm UTC](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/crafting-arrows-in-9-ma/4314/16 "2013-12-04T18:49:35Z")

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I find that metal arrows have less of a chance of disappearing than wooden ones, so you can stretch a few metal ones out for a lot longer. Plus, you can just carry a hacksaw, hammer and supply of fletchlings around, and duck into a nearby store anytime you need more.

Even on no-cities mode, a shovel and a few minutes with a helicopter crash get you enough metal for most of your ordinary needs.

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**Author:** ![Cherry](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/discourse.cataclysmdda.org/cherry/32/230_2.png) [@Cherry](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/u/Cherry)\
**Post date:** [December 4, 2013, 7:13pm UTC](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/crafting-arrows-in-9-ma/4314/17 "2013-12-04T19:13:17Z")

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I never thought about hunting heli-crashes for metal before!  
Thanks for the pro-tip.

And regarding metal arrows, I still can’t be bothered with them.  
40 heavy wood arrows is enough for most of my city runs. Bullets for anything more important.

I suppose that no-city runs means no bullets to get bullets. So yeah THEN I would need some metal bolts/arrows.