# Craftable utility lights

**URL:** <https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/craftable-utility-lights/17750>\
**Category:** The Drawing Board\
**Created:** [December 5, 2018, 9:18pm UTC](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/craftable-utility-lights/17750 "2018-12-05T21:18:31Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![Erk](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/discourse.cataclysmdda.org/erk/32/3871_2.png) [@Erk](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/u/Erk)\
**Post date:** [December 5, 2018, 10:56pm UTC](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/craftable-utility-lights/17750/21 "2018-12-05T22:56:06Z")

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Probably whatever a turret is

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**Author:** ![DrakeDragon8](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/9fc29f/32.png) [@DrakeDragon8](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/u/DrakeDragon8)\
**Post date:** [December 5, 2018, 11:02pm UTC](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/craftable-utility-lights/17750/22 "2018-12-05T23:02:29Z")

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Turrets are variable but you might want the radius of a floodlight if your going to make it with such item

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**Author:** ![Malkeus](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/discourse.cataclysmdda.org/malkeus/32/12037_2.png) [@Malkeus](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/u/Malkeus)\
**Post date:** [December 5, 2018, 11:10pm UTC](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/craftable-utility-lights/17750/23 "2018-12-05T23:10:09Z")

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This is the recipe for the electric lantern, with a floodlight and the plutonium added. Maybe add fabrication requirement and some pipes and/or nails to build your folding frame.

{  
“type” : “recipe”,  
“result”: “atomic\_worklight”,  
“category”: “CC\_ELECTRONIC”,  
“subcategory”: “CSC\_ELECTRONIC\_LIGHTING”,  
“skill\_used”: “electronics”,  
“difficulty”: 3,  
“time”: 10000,  
“reversible”: true,  
“book\_learn”: [[“manual\_electronics”, 3] , [“mag\_electronics”, 4] , [“textbook\_electronics”, 2]],  
“using”: [[ “soldering\_standard”, 7] ],  
“qualities” : [{“id”:“SCREW”,“level”:1}],  
“components”: [  
[[ “floodlight”, 1] ],  
[[ “cable”, 8] ],  
[[ “plastic\_chunk”, 2] ],  
[[ “circuit”, 2] ],  
[[ “e\_scrap”, 2] ],  
[[ “amplifier”, 1] ],  
[[ “plut\_cell”, 5] ],  
]

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**Author:** ![DrakeDragon8](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/9fc29f/32.png) [@DrakeDragon8](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/u/DrakeDragon8)\
**Post date:** [December 5, 2018, 11:17pm UTC](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/craftable-utility-lights/17750/24 "2018-12-05T23:17:52Z")

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I agree mostly with this setup though I would believe the difficulty needs to be raised to something akin to the advanced UPS?

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**Author:** ![Erk](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/discourse.cataclysmdda.org/erk/32/3871_2.png) [@Erk](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/u/Erk)\
**Post date:** [December 5, 2018, 11:23pm UTC](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/craftable-utility-lights/17750/25 "2018-12-05T23:23:26Z")

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It’d definitely be more difficult than an electric lantern. Probably 4.

Honestly the main reason I would copy luminance from turrets is that it’s easier to duplicate in JSON. Turrets have a luminance of 200-210.

Although actually nvm I should copy luminance from the existing utility light terrain, which is hard-coded somewhere. I’ll have to find it. Weird that it’s not a JSON flag.

Whatever the case it doesn’t have to match vehicle floodlights, it’s mounted in a totally different way. The floodlight component is just to represent needing a large powerful bulb.

Edit: there we go, existing utility lights are in lightmap.cpp with brightness 240. So I’ll probably make it somewhere between 200 and 240.

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**Author:** ![DrakeDragon8](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/9fc29f/32.png) [@DrakeDragon8](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/u/DrakeDragon8)\
**Post date:** [December 5, 2018, 11:28pm UTC](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/craftable-utility-lights/17750/26 "2018-12-05T23:28:33Z")

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To be fair you ARE handling PLUTONIUM and I’m not exactly sure what difficulty you first use plutonium cells is.

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**Author:** ![Malkeus](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/discourse.cataclysmdda.org/malkeus/32/12037_2.png) [@Malkeus](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/u/Malkeus)\
**Post date:** [December 5, 2018, 11:29pm UTC](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/craftable-utility-lights/17750/27 "2018-12-05T23:29:49Z")

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What if you just modified the existing utility lights to be foldable like braziers and give them a recipe?

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**Author:** ![Erk](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/discourse.cataclysmdda.org/erk/32/3871_2.png) [@Erk](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/u/Erk)\
**Post date:** [December 5, 2018, 11:31pm UTC](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/craftable-utility-lights/17750/28 "2018-12-05T23:31:36Z")

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> [@DrakeDragon8](#):
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> To be fair you ARE handling PLUTONIUM and I’m not exactly sure what difficulty you first use plutonium cells is.

Making an atomic lamp is difficulty 3.

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**Author:** ![Erk](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/discourse.cataclysmdda.org/erk/32/3871_2.png) [@Erk](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/u/Erk)\
**Post date:** [December 5, 2018, 11:32pm UTC](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/craftable-utility-lights/17750/29 "2018-12-05T23:32:13Z")

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> [@Malkeus](#):
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> What if you just modified the existing utility lights to be foldable like braziers and give them a recipe?

Thought of it, but I don’t think players should be raiding the refugee camp and stealing their lights. Those are presumably plugged into a central power generator, not foldable and plutonium powered.

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**Author:** ![DrakeDragon8](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/9fc29f/32.png) [@DrakeDragon8](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/u/DrakeDragon8)\
**Post date:** [December 5, 2018, 11:34pm UTC](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/craftable-utility-lights/17750/30 "2018-12-05T23:34:05Z")

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Where do you even get the recipe for that? I have electronics 5 and all the low level skill books and I don’t have it. Come to think of it even on all my other characters I’ve never had it and some had really high electronics

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**Author:** ![Erk](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/discourse.cataclysmdda.org/erk/32/3871_2.png) [@Erk](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/u/Erk)\
**Post date:** [December 5, 2018, 11:35pm UTC](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/craftable-utility-lights/17750/31 "2018-12-05T23:35:38Z")

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[http://cdda-trunk.chezzo.com/atomic\_lamp/craft](http://cdda-trunk.chezzo.com/atomic_lamp/craft)

It’s reasonable to keep the utility light recipe to the rivtech design book as well.

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**Author:** ![DrakeDragon8](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/9fc29f/32.png) [@DrakeDragon8](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/u/DrakeDragon8)\
**Post date:** [December 5, 2018, 11:37pm UTC](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/craftable-utility-lights/17750/32 "2018-12-05T23:37:14Z")

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What is the spawn chance/area for that thing as I have not come across it before

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**Author:** ![DrakeDragon8](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/9fc29f/32.png) [@DrakeDragon8](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/u/DrakeDragon8)\
**Post date:** [December 5, 2018, 11:39pm UTC](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/craftable-utility-lights/17750/33 "2018-12-05T23:39:27Z")

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Though 3 might be fair if the only way to learn it is from that book

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**Post date:** [December 6, 2018, 12:23am UTC](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/craftable-utility-lights/17750/34 "2018-12-06T00:23:08Z")

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It’s low, but I find it often enough in labs. The recipe source is the easiest aspect to change later.

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**Author:** ![DrakeDragon8](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/9fc29f/32.png) [@DrakeDragon8](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/u/DrakeDragon8)\
**Post date:** [December 6, 2018, 12:29am UTC](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/craftable-utility-lights/17750/35 "2018-12-06T00:29:31Z")

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Really? wow my RNG luck must be freakin low as of all the labs I’ve went to and finished its never come up

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**Post date:** [December 6, 2018, 12:30am UTC](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/craftable-utility-lights/17750/36 "2018-12-06T00:30:09Z")

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You can get the book from bank vaults too.

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**Author:** ![DrakeDragon8](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/9fc29f/32.png) [@DrakeDragon8](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/u/DrakeDragon8)\
**Post date:** [December 6, 2018, 12:31am UTC](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/craftable-utility-lights/17750/37 "2018-12-06T00:31:44Z")

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Ahh never felt like opening one maybe I should -thinks of all the banks passed and ignored-

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**Author:** ![nameless\_survivor](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/discourse.cataclysmdda.org/nameless_survivor/32/4476_2.png) [@nameless\_survivor](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/u/nameless_survivor)\
**Post date:** [December 6, 2018, 12:56am UTC](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/craftable-utility-lights/17750/38 "2018-12-06T00:56:28Z")

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Bank vaults can have power armor, RM-13 combat armor, Rivtech design binders, purifier, all kinds of rare and useful stuff. Thats where I first found the Rivtech book. It seems to pop up there a lot.

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**Author:** ![DrakeDragon8](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/9fc29f/32.png) [@DrakeDragon8](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/u/DrakeDragon8)\
**Post date:** [December 6, 2018, 12:58am UTC](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/craftable-utility-lights/17750/39 "2018-12-06T00:58:32Z")

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Luckily enough I now have an electric jackhammer so the walls will fall before me

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**Post date:** [December 6, 2018, 1:01am UTC](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/craftable-utility-lights/17750/40 "2018-12-06T01:01:47Z")

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jackhammer the doors. The walls are concrete so you would need a circular saw to get through the rebar. I usually just hack the door, or quantum tunnel in (god I love that CBM).

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