Converting the game into using higher game engine, possible?

[Tamior]

What kind of “conflicts”, exactly, will crafting cause in 3D that it does not in 2D?

[ecchi_squid]

Well, in 2d you just have a top tile as visible. In 3d you’d have to rethink which objects take precedence on the 3d model.

[Tamior]

How is that related to crafting?
That would still be the case even if all items were pre-crafted.

[Stone]

i would personally prefer implementing the use of spritesheets to do animations with over 3d, I believe cataclysm is just too large and complex for the amount of models that would be needed without completely changing the way the game is played / viewed and would probably require far more work then adding support for spritesheet based animation (and again this would also generate work for the artists as well ), plus you would also have to think about all the people that play cataclysm on an older rig that won’t be able to play 3d.

image of spritesheet for example

[Ricky_Van]

so… i just finished research on the game requirement if CDDA is made on Unreal Engine (or other higher game engine) and as it turns out, it would be bad news, as the RAM needed will be increased (minimum of 4gb, possible reaching 8gb) and the rest of requirement is related on medium-high PC… lower PC can’t play it (it just stutters, and sometimes freeze when there’s too much zombie on sight)

if its going to make the game better while sacrificing lower PC player, im not agree with that, i just don’t like seeing game improvement that would cost massive works to artists and dev team + leaving the player with low-spec PC behind. a simple game with tileset/ASCII graphic but has massive gameplay feature/content + mod and stuff and development that would not weight down the artists and dev team is already perfect. and with constant update almost everyday on the game is also really good, and to think that if the game is set on higher engine then the constant update will be much harder and much more longer (1 update per 3-4 weeks)

[ecchi_squid]

Well, if someone wants to work on a 3D version of the game and mods, I’d hope they’d be compatible with the ascii version XD

[Ricky_Van]

wishing that to be true

but if i remember correctly, Unreal or any higher engine doesn’t support ASCII (true or not?)

[ecchi_squid]

Not sure personally, but I don’t imagine any new implements would be too hard to incorporate from the Unreal engine. A lot of it would be just dumbed down lol

[Ricky_Van]

ayy i see one hint there

that’s why it took possibly 3-4 weeks to just deploy one experimental update build.

[ecchi_squid]

Shit, I don’t even remember what version I’m using. But it’s an older one.

[Ricky_Van]

what version? CDDA or?

[ecchi_squid]

0.C-27990-g91a1db0
I believe it was a stable build

[Ricky_Van]

ohh yeah, old one… stable build is zero-bug good but doesnt have new feature experimental build has…

[ecchi_squid]

I’ve heard too many complaints about different features like freezing liquids and such. I don’t have acid rain from what I’ve seen. That’s my only disappointment with this build.

[Ricky_Van]

but your build is zero-bug, well kind of… but good enough.
but if you want something new, try the latest experimental build.

[ecchi_squid]

Can’t be fucked trying to download using my 300kb connection lol

[Ricky_Van]

ayy that is good connection…

my download speed is only 120-130kbps…

[ecchi_squid]

Well, my download speed using the app store is about 300kb ps, using the browser probably 70 lol

[Ricky_Van]

kek

well its 82Mb in size so download it when the time is right.

[Androth]

anything is possible if you throw enough money at it.

what you’re asking would be limited by assets. in cataclysm dda, adding an asset is as simple as adding a couple lines of text and using a generic icon for it. in a 3d engine, it requires modeling and texturing a world item as well as a representative icon. you also have to deal with texture memory limits based on the game engine.

the game 7 days to die might scratch your itch for a 3d crafting zombie survival game. it’s set in a random voxel world and you can customize it to your hearts content.

now as a side note, i could see this game being ported over to unity using 2d mode and tiles.