# Context for attribute numbers
**URL:** https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/context-for-attribute-numbers/29532
**Category:** The Drawing Board
**Created:** [November 24, 2024, 6:01am UTC](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/context-for-attribute-numbers/29532 "2024-11-24T06:01:41Z")
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### Author:  [@heebejeebes](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/u/heebejeebes)
#### Post date: [November 24, 2024, 6:01am UTC](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/context-for-attribute-numbers/29532/1 "2024-11-24T06:01:41Z")
We all know our four attributes (Strength, Dexterity, Intelligence, Perception) start at 8 and can go up a higher number (I actually do not know the upper limit, I assume something like 20?) but what do these numbers mean exactly? Is 8 average or below average? is a 15 Godlike or just really good? I think it would be a good idea to put a guide word in parenthesis next to each attribute when you are making a character, and perhaps even in the character sheet, to kind of inform you what that number means. It could look something like this:
8-9 (Below Average)
10 (Average)
11-12 (Above Average)
13-14 (Peak)
15-16 (Olympian)
etc
Thoughts?
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### Author:  [@Air\_Breather](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/u/Air_Breather)
#### Post date: [November 24, 2024, 7:11am UTC](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/context-for-attribute-numbers/29532/2 "2024-11-24T07:11:08Z")
There already is something like that in the design doc [Game Balance | DDA Docs](https://docs.cataclysmdda.org/GAME_BALANCE.html)