# Constantly Cold feet?

**URL:** <https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/constantly-cold-feet/24254>\
**Category:** The Garage\
**Created:** [July 25, 2020, 4:14pm UTC](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/constantly-cold-feet/24254 "2020-07-25T16:14:14Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 12\
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**Author:** ![Ness](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/discourse.cataclysmdda.org/ness/32/9694_2.png) [@Ness](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/u/Ness)\
**Post date:** [July 25, 2020, 4:14pm UTC](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/constantly-cold-feet/24254/1 "2020-07-25T16:14:14Z")

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![image](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/uploads/cataclysmdda/original/2X/5/5c05a2c7f8aabd819b36167f89c634083f66cd72.png) before, having negative 50 on my feet despite wearing three pairs of socks, here after activating my thermal socks ![image](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/uploads/cataclysmdda/original/2X/6/640a00343b6c8f658a14956f5ea8b00d4a19ad59.png) and when I take all my socks off it doesnt change, still -57 ![image](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/uploads/cataclysmdda/original/2X/b/b31a6a173b783cf69c26f081e15cf1c9c5f7fffd.png)

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**Author:** ![Ness](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/discourse.cataclysmdda.org/ness/32/9694_2.png) [@Ness](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/u/Ness)\
**Post date:** [July 25, 2020, 4:37pm UTC](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/constantly-cold-feet/24254/2 "2020-07-25T16:37:19Z")

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![image](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/uploads/cataclysmdda/original/2X/1/1ab519245e26d64ef275a04292ad56d0460ce3bb.png) OK SERIOUSLY NEED HELP, IM FREEZING FROM THE BOTTOM UP

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**Author:** ![Fris0uman](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/discourse.cataclysmdda.org/fris0uman/32/8607_2.png) [@Fris0uman](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/u/Fris0uman)\
**Post date:** [July 25, 2020, 5:12pm UTC](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/constantly-cold-feet/24254/3 "2020-07-25T17:12:36Z")

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Use a towel to dry yourself and wait for the bugfix

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**Author:** ![Ness](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/discourse.cataclysmdda.org/ness/32/9694_2.png) [@Ness](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/u/Ness)\
**Post date:** [July 25, 2020, 6:28pm UTC](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/constantly-cold-feet/24254/4 "2020-07-25T18:28:16Z")

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this did it, is there a way to check wether or not im wet in the future?

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**Author:** ![Trigon](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/discourse.cataclysmdda.org/trigon/32/2668_2.png) [@Trigon](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/u/Trigon)\
**Post date:** [July 25, 2020, 9:33pm UTC](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/constantly-cold-feet/24254/5 "2020-07-25T21:33:36Z")

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You can check the morale menu and it will generally tell you that you’re wet.

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**Author:** ![Valase](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/discourse.cataclysmdda.org/valase/32/6972_2.png) [@Valase](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/u/Valase)\
**Post date:** [July 25, 2020, 9:44pm UTC](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/constantly-cold-feet/24254/6 "2020-07-25T21:44:27Z")

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For anyone interested in the mechanics behind this bug, Fris0uman explained them in this topic:

> [@My torso and arms warmth drops to insane levels after loading a save](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/my-torso-and-arms-warmth-drops-to-insane-levels-after-loading-a-save/24201/17):
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> Ok so there were multiple bugs: First drench capacity was set to 1 so when your toso reached 40 wetness the game thought you were 4000% wet and applied cold penalty accordingly Second there is a typo that makes you wetter each time you’re supposed to get dryer leading to infinite wetness First one is already fixed and here’s the fix for the second one [https://github.com/CleverRaven/Cataclysm-DDA/pull/42430](https://github.com/CleverRaven/Cataclysm-DDA/pull/42430)

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**Author:** ![Brian\_Cahoon](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/discourse.cataclysmdda.org/brian_cahoon/32/6070_2.png) [@Brian\_Cahoon](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/u/Brian_Cahoon)\
**Post date:** [July 26, 2020, 4:57am UTC](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/constantly-cold-feet/24254/7 "2020-07-26T04:57:06Z")

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I dont think thats the only bug. I just died from cold due to wetness bug. But I checked the temp and everywhere inside and outside my base it showed 0 in every tile in the temp overlay. After dying I made a new character but in the same game world. Im in a different shelter on the start of the very 1st day, day 61 or whatever. Already got frostbite and dying from cold. Temp overlay shows 0 in every tile, but info shows Im not wet.

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**Author:** ![Fload](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/discourse.cataclysmdda.org/fload/32/10988_2.png) [@Fload](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/u/Fload)\
**Post date:** [July 26, 2020, 5:03pm UTC](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/constantly-cold-feet/24254/8 "2020-07-26T17:03:19Z")

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Yeah so I’ve noticed since a recent build that when you load a game the ambient temp starts at 0(F, I believe) and it takes at least a minute (in-game) to go back to normal. You can use a thermometer or temperature check from the debug menu to be sure.

tl;dr - This appears to be a very recent bug. Temp drops to 0 whenever you load a save. Goes back to normal shortly thereafter.

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**Author:** ![Brian\_Cahoon](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/discourse.cataclysmdda.org/brian_cahoon/32/6070_2.png) [@Brian\_Cahoon](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/u/Brian_Cahoon)\
**Post date:** [July 26, 2020, 11:35pm UTC](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/constantly-cold-feet/24254/9 "2020-07-26T23:35:43Z")

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Using build 10865 from a day ago, I have my starting clothes on, an emergency blanket wrapped around me, and I am on top of a blanket in the shelter. Ambient temp shows 0 in all tiles, even after using the wait function to wait 5 minutes, several times. Character is dying from frostbite. I dont know, my ambient temp doesnt seem to fix like yours does.  
EDIT:Just updated to 10871 and the problem still seems to persist. I have noticed the ambient temp in the basement is alternating 3 and 4 in every tile, but upstairs its all 0’s.  
EDIT+1:Ok I started thinking something wasnt right. So I made a new character in the same world. I spawned in an Evac Shelter I had used from an old character, so it still had a bunch of stuff in it. Ambient temp shows 5 and 6 in each tile. So either something is wrong with the last character I made (he was brand new) or some part of my world is being frozen lol.

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**Author:** ![Fload](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/discourse.cataclysmdda.org/fload/32/10988_2.png) [@Fload](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/u/Fload)\
**Post date:** [July 27, 2020, 3:53am UTC](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/constantly-cold-feet/24254/10 "2020-07-27T03:53:04Z")

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The only suggestion I can make is to try moving around a bit? But even if that works this is apparently a pretty severe game breaking bug. My character is near impossible to kill at this point, so I didn’t experience any ill effects from this. Seemed like a minor issue, but apparently not. This probably warrants posting an issue if there isn’t one already. I can at least confirm that ambient temp starts out at zero (or something close) on load, everywhere. It’s definitely not a character issue, unless somehow character data influences ambient temperature.

Edit: Tested again and walking around a decent distance fixed it for me (still game breaking for starting chars, etc). Kinda wish I could get the bug to persist longer, would help with mi-go towers.

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**Author:** ![Fload](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/discourse.cataclysmdda.org/fload/32/10988_2.png) [@Fload](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/u/Fload)\
**Post date:** [July 27, 2020, 4:04am UTC](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/constantly-cold-feet/24254/11 "2020-07-27T04:04:49Z")

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> [@Fload](#):
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> It’s definitely not a character issue, unless somehow character data influences ambient temperature.

Well this might indeed be the case, based on [38057](https://github.com/CleverRaven/Cataclysm-DDA/issues/38057). (Though that particular issue has been closed) The temperature mechanics are, ummm, funny. At least from what I can tell.

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**Author:** ![Brian\_Cahoon](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/discourse.cataclysmdda.org/brian_cahoon/32/6070_2.png) [@Brian\_Cahoon](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/u/Brian_Cahoon)\
**Post date:** [July 27, 2020, 4:38am UTC](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/constantly-cold-feet/24254/12 "2020-07-27T04:38:59Z")

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Well I noticed alot of missing books and items in that bunker so I erased the world and started from scratch. Everything seems fine now