Collector items/artefacts

[DeepEnd]

I think there could be community-driven lists of collectibles instead one fixed. Item type for any collectible is “misc item” so generating these items to world does not affect game balance.

This way anyone can have the possible things to collect they exactly want - like when you name your favourite fruit in nethack. Also this eliminates clutter because you can shut down categories you dont want to be generated in world.

Lists are handled in generalized way, so item in list A has equal chance of spawning to item in list B, and the rate of spawning is dictated how many items in total there are. This way chance to find item you are looking for is equal no matter how many collectibles-list your game has, the more you have the more game generates clutter, but chances of finding one particular item is always the same regardless how many or few collectibles lists you have.

Maybe the lists could allow tweak of in-category rareness, so you could have really common items from category or super-rares, but as average lists would be always equal.

This would solve the “That stuff is not important to me, but I want this stuff”. Just do your own list of wants and youre go.

[ArgusTheCat]

[quote=“KA101, post:9, topic:498”]Problem is defining what constitutes sufficient luxury. Blueberries might qualify for you (and for me, I suppose), I’d prefer malted milk balls rather than peanut butter cups but candy could qualify, the mp3 player qualifies for everyone thanks to its quantum music selection. Favored foods might help, and if I start creating more items, I’d put Girl Scout cookies in: one generic and one favorite, similar to how potato chips are handled.

Not sure if porn would qualify, especially given that there’s nothing (yet) for people who prefer men.[/quote]

A few days ago, somewhere around here, I suggested the idea of characters developing ‘tastes’, based on what you read and eat and listen to early on. One of the devs mentioned that such a system was already planned to be implemented, so there’s the solution to that.

[Iosyn]

Frankly I love anime, video games and all sorts of useless, terrible B-movies (or movies that would love to get B-rating stardom) but I still can’t stand MLP. Think about it-- if they were human, they’d all have tatts on their ass. Who usually have tatts on their ass?
I’ll let you think about that one.

As for collectibles, stick 'em in. Fetch quests are a staple of nearly any game genre. Even some RTS aren’t exempt, although that’s probably due to executive meddling. Something like a grammaphone with some classical music that gives a massive morale boosts, but you have to wind it up-- and it’s loud. Like, really damn loud. Draw-everything-on-the-block-to-the-phantastique-tea-party level loud.

[iceball3]

[quote=“Iosyn, post:12, topic:498”]Frankly I love anime, video games and all sorts of useless, terrible B-movies (or movies that would love to get B-rating stardom) but I still can’t stand MLP. Think about it-- if they were human, they’d all have tatts on their ass. Who usually have tatts on their ass?
I’ll let you think about that one.[/quote]That’s why they’re not humans, lol, they’re horses.

As for collectibles, stick 'em in. Fetch quests are a staple of nearly any game genre. Even some RTS aren't exempt, although that's probably due to executive meddling. Something like a grammaphone with some classical music that gives a [i]massive [/i]morale boosts, but you have to wind it up-- and it's loud. Like, really damn loud. Draw-everything-on-the-block-to-the-phantastique-tea-party level loud.

I can see this as an awesome/cheaty/still awesome way grinding your melee skills to maximum sauciness.

[Reservoir]

That's why they're not humans, lol, they're horses.

Expect "They are ponies, not horses you dumb cheese" and a nice "Anti-brony" badge

Also, I respect ponies and bronies, but they are annoying to the point where a video about… making cookies ends up having a shitty brony-antibrony fight in the comment section.
Even this thread. LOOK AT IT. WE ARE NOW TALKING ABOUT PONIES. WHY DO YOU BRONIES HAVE TO INVADE EVERY SINGLE BIT OF THE INTERNET?
And again, I respect brownies and ponies

[system]

Oh no!

BRONY NEEDS BACKUP HERE!

BRONIES ASSEMBLE!

[The_Darkling_Wolf]

[me=The Darkling Wolf]idly toys with his banhammer, flipping it a few times.[/me]

[system]

I’m under intense scrutiny because I am a brony. And I defend my beliefs against all odds.

But I’m only one man!

[The_Darkling_Wolf]

Any more of the brony shit and I’m going to temp ban you. If you can’t discuss something like a reasonable person, then don’t discuss it.

Similarly, any of the dumb anti-brony shit is going to be treated the same.

[system]

Fine.

I won’t attack them for everything they are if they don’t attack me for being a brony.

He attacked me by saying: [quote=“Iosyn, post:12, topic:498”]if they were human, they’d all have tatts on their ass. Who usually have tatts on their ass?
I’ll let you think about that one.[/quote]

I’m not here to stir this kind of hate up, and I don’t want to bring my shit here. I will drop it like it is liquid fire ONLY if ponies aren’t hit so harshly in the future.

I don’t attack people for their likes or beliefs so I feel I should be treated with the same respect.

[The_Darkling_Wolf]

He wasn’t attacking you, he was making a joke. If you’re not capable of taking a bit of humour aimed at your fandom, then you shouldn’t be a part of it.

[Fniff]

I agree. I’m a brony myself and even I don’t really like derailing threads with pony stuff… Speaking of, back on topic, collector’s items and luxuries. Perhaps we could have a seperate “personality” area in character creation where you put points in stuff that give you an extra morale boost if you listen to it? +1 to music means you feel happier listening to music. +1 to fruit means you like fruit more. +1 to candy means you like unhealthy but sweet food more. You could even add a few more things as well to that idea, thinking about it.

[Reservoir]

Back to the topic
Wasting my precius skill-trait points in another thing that arent skill-traits? No thank you, I rarely use the mp3 or eat fruit.

[Fniff]

Yeah, but just because you wouldn’t use it doesn’t mean others won’t. I barely use any traits apart from parkour expert but other people get along with them. Besides, morale is probably going to have a bigger impact, probably as a sanity meter or somesuch, so it could be a viable tactic having favorites to keep your morale as high as possible.

[Reservoir]

I dont want a sanity meter. They are all broken. Seriusly, I dont want to spend my precius night-time in my house-fortress listening to music because I saw a Z eating a corpse and Im too scared to go outside.

[Fniff]

It’d probably be less PTSD and more Eternal Darkness, in my opinion at least. You wouldn’t be afraid, you’d just be hallucinating and in constant doubt of your own senses. Like schizophrenia.

[Reservoir]

Now thats a good idea. +1 to it

I like it because it donest totally change the gameplay, and adds a negative trait which is fairy easy to do.
Also because Schizophrenia is scary. Id really love to hear voices or “SMASHES!” in my cave or house. Dark wyrms and Hulks scare the shit outa me :<

[Fniff]

Schizophrenia is actually in the game, but I think with the sanity system it could be switched out for “mentally unstable”, meaning you’re more likely to hallucinate and when you go mad, you go really mad.

[KA101]

I know I brought up Eternal Darkness regarding finishing targets for a morale bonus. Sanity effects resulting from low morale seem a bit harsh, unless “low” is under -100 or so, which currently just reduces stats & minimizes XP gain. Recall that being out in the Rain is worth up to -60.

(I take Trigger Happy: that might lead to X-COM style going Berserk?)

[teh_sam]

Carrying these items also introduces the case of gaining a constant morale boost in exchange for carrying otherwise dead weight.