# Cockroach is zombie faction? Intended?

**URL:** <https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/cockroach-is-zombie-faction-intended/24538>\
**Category:** The Garage\
**Created:** [August 22, 2020, 10:32pm UTC](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/cockroach-is-zombie-faction-intended/24538 "2020-08-22T22:32:53Z")\
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**Author:** ![Litppunk](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/discourse.cataclysmdda.org/litppunk/32/409_2.png) [@Litppunk](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/u/Litppunk)\
**Post date:** [August 22, 2020, 10:32pm UTC](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/cockroach-is-zombie-faction-intended/24538/1 "2020-08-22T22:32:53Z")

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What faction is huge cockroach? It is a mutated animal, so I can understand if it in fact zombie faction, but there is no indication that it is, so I thought it was just ‘mutated animal faction’  
huge cockroach and zombies go out of their way to ignore each other, even when I went so far as to block a door with the roach, but the zombie just pushed it into the room with me so they could both attack me.

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**Author:** ![spicyshadow](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/5e9695/32.png) [@spicyshadow](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/u/spicyshadow)\
**Post date:** [August 22, 2020, 10:35pm UTC](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/cockroach-is-zombie-faction-intended/24538/2 "2020-08-22T22:35:50Z")

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Zombies will ignore small animals like rats, birds, cats and such. Cockroaches are so small that they ignore them too.

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**Author:** ![Litppunk](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/discourse.cataclysmdda.org/litppunk/32/409_2.png) [@Litppunk](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/u/Litppunk)\
**Post date:** [August 22, 2020, 10:37pm UTC](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/cockroach-is-zombie-faction-intended/24538/3 "2020-08-22T22:37:22Z")

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no. Huge cockroach. It is mutant animal size of dog

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**Author:** ![Litppunk](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/discourse.cataclysmdda.org/litppunk/32/409_2.png) [@Litppunk](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/u/Litppunk)\
**Post date:** [August 22, 2020, 10:42pm UTC](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/cockroach-is-zombie-faction-intended/24538/4 "2020-08-22T22:42:36Z")

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Is it still small animal faction? Still shouldn’t be able to push without even a log message I wouldn’t think…come to think of it, even zombies pushing zoms gives a message last I was aware.

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**Author:** ![anothersimulacrum](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/discourse.cataclysmdda.org/anothersimulacrum/32/10770_2.png) [@anothersimulacrum](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/u/anothersimulacrum)\
**Post date:** [August 22, 2020, 10:48pm UTC](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/cockroach-is-zombie-faction-intended/24538/5 "2020-08-22T22:48:30Z")

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The reasoning can be found here as to why that is:

> <https://github.com/CleverRaven/Cataclysm-DDA/pull/15372>

  
I’m not sure how much I agree with it, but that’s why it is.

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**Author:** ![Litppunk](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/discourse.cataclysmdda.org/litppunk/32/409_2.png) [@Litppunk](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/u/Litppunk)\
**Post date:** [August 22, 2020, 11:05pm UTC](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/cockroach-is-zombie-faction-intended/24538/6 "2020-08-22T23:05:49Z")

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Ah ok. Thanks! that explains a lot. Bizare as it is…

Hmm If they are going to be full on allied in order to ignore each other like that, then maybe insects should at least attempt to return to their own area instead of randomly bumbling around in the nearest outside corner when lured out?

Bah, its fairly minor detail of a confused bug to large for its natural instincts.

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**Author:** ![Litppunk](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/discourse.cataclysmdda.org/litppunk/32/409_2.png) [@Litppunk](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/u/Litppunk)\
**Post date:** [August 22, 2020, 11:18pm UTC](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/cockroach-is-zombie-faction-intended/24538/7 "2020-08-22T23:18:40Z")

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I guess what annoyed me the most was the COMPLETE lack of reaction, maybe some kind of ‘infighting’ could be implemented so that allied factions/ units would give warning nips and the like to give spacing? or like when packs fight over parts of a kill  
zombies would at least ignore it, but other creatures should try to respect spacing some…hmm no I’m probably overthinking it again.