Character Sanity

[Umbra.Animo]

i think it would more be problematic with Schizophrenic trait over the Psychopath. psychopath just means you have no empathy or something in game while Schizophrenic causes you to get the same false info low sanity may cause

[redxlaser15]

I image that getting different mutations would affect sanity to different levels;It’s one thing to turn green, it’s another to grown tentacles.
At least with some mutations, you might eventually be able to ‘come to terms’ with it. It’s a part of your life, and you’ve adjusted for it by now.

[redxlaser15]

If sanity were to become ‘hidden,’ then maybe that one trait that lets you see your exact health could also detect sanity levels, or perhaps a different trait just for that.

I suspect that the psychopath trait would matter in at least some cases. If nothing else, you won’t get sanity loss from killing and corpses.

Speaking of corpses, there should probably be some sort of limit for seeing them, so that it doesn’t become too overwhelming after a battle field; One corpse looms just like another. If nothing else, for balancing reasons.

There could possibly be a trait called ‘sensitive mentality’ or something like that, which makes you go insane a lot faster.

Maybe certain pills could help you with your sanity levels too.

(Oof, this was longer than I expected)

[Wayticus]

Sounds like the gourmand, religious, schizophrenic, insomniac traits and some mutations that you can get, only not having an option to take them but being forced to deal with them, if you want to play a character with those traits do so, you will get many of the results you are asking for.

[Wayticus]

Levels of intelligence have nothing to do with levels of sanity, just because you you can/can’t figure out advanced astro-physics doesn’t make you more or less likely to have mental instabilities, being unstable may effect your intelligence since things don’t make as much sense anymore, making to harder learn things, course the hallucinations from in the game already slow that down with all the interruptions.

There are already traits for psychopath, and pacifist, just not will all the bonuses/debuffs you suggested, and not being forced onto the players.

If you want to make a mod that adds that sure go for it ,but I don’t think it should be required…

[Darkfirephoenix]

“The heavens tell you that you have to purge all these hellish abominations!”
A sanity system doesn’t only have to have bad stuff for you to get, example above

[Umbra.Animo]

yeah if someone did a cult system. read rim of madness from rimworld style cult low sanity could let you make some crazy stuff. also for mutations i would say mutation from rads or other random events would affect sanity more then serumas you take since you choose to take them and threshold mutation affect it more but lower how much new mutation affect your sanity

[TheZoneWizard]

I planted this seed last year I believe. Nice to see it sprouting this year =^.^=

[DarkendTheMighty]

Sanity decreases if you read books from the nether or Lovecraft

[redxlaser15]

I haven’t yet read any Lovecraft stuff yet, but I intend to. Seeing as the tidbits I’ve heard intrigue me, I think it might actually increase my personal sanity.
I haven’t heard of any book series thing called The Nether before though.

[TheZoneWizard]

Lookem up here if you cannot afford his books or you don’t wanna run to a library:

Project Gutenberg

[Mantar]

It’s funny, most insanity in Lovecraft is less “I saw something weird and now I’m crazy” and more “I keep telling people there are things in the shadows whispering to me about impending doom, but nobody believes me and now they’ve locked me away in an asylum” even though it’s true, those shadowy things really are there talking to him.
With a side order of “Cthulhu’s psychic influence (largely in dreams) imposing alien thought patterns onto susceptible human beings,” creating mad cultists who reconcile these weird visions by worshipping the Old Ones.

This all got gamified into “look over there, tentacles! You take 12 sanity damage!” by the Call of Cthulhu RPG, which borrowed a lot more from August Derleth’s fanfi-- oh, pardon me, extensions of the Cthulhu Mythos than it did the original text, likely on the basis that Derleth’s vision was less horror and thus more gamable.

[TheZoneWizard]

You can go insane from looking at a horrific scene. But by the same token. The crap that you cannot readily provide evidence for, is by far the more sinister and frightening to behold first hand.

That instance usually gets you locked up because it’s like a dog telling another dog that they can see color.

I’m in the camp of “convince me with evidence”. Else yer a nut bag lol

[TheMurderUnicorn]

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When I play the game, I craft a character to suit my needs. Adding a system where I get traits or other effects as a result of something I can’t control (trauma) or something I don’t care to do in-game (interacting with NPCs) would just really piss me off.

The morale system, for instance, has a lot of room for you to work around. Yeah, being wet bums you out, but you can grab an umbrella or run from building to building. Killing child zombies drops morale, but you have the option to run away from them or lead them away.

Being depressed as to the state of the world, how does one work around that? Anti-depressants?
How do you avoid trauma? You don’t, it’s literally impossible to avoid trauma.

So yeah. Just my opinion. I’d be unhappy with a system like this.

And then there’s my personal problem with some of the suggestions in this thread. If you’ve never dealt with trauma, or interacted with people who have significant mental illness, maybe don’t make suggestions about it?

[Petrol_jelly]

The Mi-Go is a creature from an H.P. lovecraft book called “In The Mountains of Madness”

[redxlaser15]

With what you are saying, and my own opinion, having this as an optional mod would probably be better.

[Umbra.Animo]

yeah i was just asking did it sound like a interesting idea i mean sure i would love to play a game with this but i dont care if its a mod or built in feature

[TheZoneWizard]

I discussed this a while back. I think it would still be a great option. We already have the parts of the puzzle. Just need the connection points programmed into the game.

Would be an addicts nightmare in that scenario too. But then again. You can willy nilly knock over a hospitals drug storage.

[TheMurderUnicorn]

I do think that it would be interesting. And if it’s going to be a mod or optional, then I’m fine with it. My concern was threefold. First, that it would be a part of the game that I would not be able to turn off. Second, that the effects would be unrealistically grand and game-breaking without suitable workarounds. And third, that it would not be implemented well from a gameplay perspective.

I know there was a reference to Call of Cthulhu, Dark Corners, which is where my mind also goes when discussing sanity effects. Although I remember it as positive, this is a result of nostalgia. Playing the game now – I mean, if you look over a ledge for too long, your character’s sanity suffers and he will actually eventually kill himself. That’s ludicrous and should not be the metric for what is a ‘good mechanic’.

So if you can make it optional and can implement it in an enjoyable way, all power to you.

[TheZoneWizard]

Well. I wouldn’t kill myself. I can tell you that people do get instant vertigo looking over a high enough precipice.
I have that. Not a fear of heights, but actual intense room spinning dizzy just from looking down a casm or a great height.

That was before I had everyday vertigo. Now I just don’t go anywhere high >_>