# Character creation and Traits

**URL:** <https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/character-creation-and-traits/5240>\
**Category:** The Bunker\
**Created:** [February 28, 2014, 2:35pm UTC](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/character-creation-and-traits/5240 "2014-02-28T14:35:24Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 6\
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**Author:** ![Fenix](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/eb9ed0/32.png) [@Fenix](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/u/Fenix)\
**Post date:** [February 28, 2014, 2:35pm UTC](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/character-creation-and-traits/5240/1 "2014-02-28T14:35:24Z")

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Last time I played Cataclysm was not long before Whales abandon it.

So, what has changed in Traits? Wiki seems to be a bit outdated.

I interested in Fast Learner, Good Memory, Gourmand.  
What’s more useful in long run - Fast Learner or Good Memory?  
Did Gourmand acts just as before?  
I know it depend on settings, I talk about mostly default.

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**Author:** ![Zireael](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/discourse.cataclysmdda.org/zireael/32/956_2.png) [@Zireael](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/u/Zireael)\
**Post date:** [February 28, 2014, 2:38pm UTC](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/character-creation-and-traits/5240/2 "2014-02-28T14:38:32Z")

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Do you use skill rust or not?  
AFAIK gourmand hasn’t been touched in ages.

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**Author:** ![Fenix](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/eb9ed0/32.png) [@Fenix](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/u/Fenix)\
**Post date:** [February 28, 2014, 2:39pm UTC](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/character-creation-and-traits/5240/3 "2014-02-28T14:39:20Z")

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Yes, I use default skill rust.

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**Author:** ![Zireael](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/discourse.cataclysmdda.org/zireael/32/956_2.png) [@Zireael](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/u/Zireael)\
**Post date:** [February 28, 2014, 2:44pm UTC](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/character-creation-and-traits/5240/4 "2014-02-28T14:44:30Z")

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If you use skill rust, then good memory is necessary especially if you plan to read high-end books, as skills can rust while you’re reading a book.

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**Author:** ![Fenix](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/eb9ed0/32.png) [@Fenix](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/u/Fenix)\
**Post date:** [February 28, 2014, 2:56pm UTC](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/character-creation-and-traits/5240/5 "2014-02-28T14:56:37Z")

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Well, the problem is I can’t take Fast Learner AND Good Memory.  
Only Fast Learner OR Good Memory.

Another question - what is minimal comfortable Perception to play with? I mean traps etc.

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**Author:** ![vache](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/v/ea666f/32.png) [@vache](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/u/vache)\
**Post date:** [February 28, 2014, 3:02pm UTC](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/character-creation-and-traits/5240/6 "2014-02-28T15:02:07Z")

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10 perception is the minimum to avoid landmines. 11 may be worthwhile if you don’t find sunglasses or some other method to keep the sun out of your eyes.