# Changing a tire

**URL:** https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/changing-a-tire/13299
**Category:** The Drawing Board
**Created:** [January 22, 2017, 3:48pm UTC](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/changing-a-tire/13299 "2017-01-22T15:48:44Z")
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### Author: ![AZ\_ECHOteam](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/43a26b/32.png) [@AZ\_ECHOteam](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/u/AZ_ECHOteam)
#### Post date: [January 22, 2017, 3:48pm UTC](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/changing-a-tire/13299/1 "2017-01-22T15:48:44Z")

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Hey guys, new to the forum. I just wanted to bring up a topic of why changing a tire in the game requires at least Mechanics 2. I understand it might be just for balance, but I think everyone that’s ever owned a car should know how to change a tire. Maybe Mechanics 1 would suffice. What are your thoughts?

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### Author: ![Aquilo](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/35a633/32.png) [@Aquilo](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/u/Aquilo)
#### Post date: [January 22, 2017, 6:23pm UTC](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/changing-a-tire/13299/2 "2017-01-22T18:23:14Z")

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Because I do not tire, wheel change. Together with the axle and the propeller shaft.

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### Author: ![keyspace](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/discourse.cataclysmdda.org/keyspace/32/590_2.png) [@keyspace](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/u/keyspace)
#### Post date: [January 29, 2017, 10:21pm UTC](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/changing-a-tire/13299/3 "2017-01-29T22:21:28Z")

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Copy-paste-edit from another thread:

> These are [url=https://github.com/CleverRaven/Cataclysm-DDA/issues/19863]known[/url], arising from those vehicle parts using "legacy" definitions, which have a fallback in code to minimum difficulty 2. One could port just these two to the newer format, but that's a "special snowflake" approach that could make it harder for someone to tackle the rest later...

I’ve taken the liberty to submit a PR that did this for storage batteries and their cases, seeing how annoying it was, partially contradicting myself - but not too much, since these have already been shuffled into a proper category file.

Wheels have been moved to a proper file, too, so this could be done… But they’re not as straightforward as storage batteries.

From RL, changing an auto wheel does require some “mechanics” knowledge - where to put the jack, how to apply leverage, especially without twisting old bolts off, etc., - but this mustn’t spill over into bicycle/cart wheels… Anyway, this will take a while if it’s to be done once.

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### Author: ![Funk](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/d07c76/32.png) [@Funk](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/u/Funk)
#### Post date: [February 5, 2017, 2:29am UTC](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/changing-a-tire/13299/4 "2017-02-05T02:29:53Z")

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> [@AZ\_ECHOteam](#):
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> Hey guys, new to the forum. I just wanted to bring up a topic of why changing a tire in the game requires at least Mechanics 2. I understand it might be just for balance, but I think everyone that’s ever owned a car should know how to change a tire. Maybe Mechanics 1 would suffice. What are your thoughts?

The thing is most people don’t know how to change the tyre by hand, it’s something of a lost art with the modern tubeless tyres of today.  
Now changeing the wheel is a simple task but it still need care to do it right and safely.  
I can see new PR with all diffent types of tyres (off road, raceing and normal) and different ways to repair them but i’m not sure what that would add.
