# Cataclysm: Infinite F\*\*\*ing Worms Ahead

**URL:** <https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/cataclysm-infinite-f-ing-worms-ahead/1077>\
**Category:** The Bunker\
**Created:** [May 1, 2013, 2:26am UTC](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/cataclysm-infinite-f-ing-worms-ahead/1077 "2013-05-01T02:26:24Z")\
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**Author:** ![Solusphere](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/discourse.cataclysmdda.org/solusphere/32/66_2.png) [@Solusphere](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/u/Solusphere)\
**Post date:** [May 1, 2013, 2:26am UTC](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/cataclysm-infinite-f-ing-worms-ahead/1077/1 "2013-05-01T02:26:24Z")

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I’ve been playing Cataclysm for a few weeks now. I think i’ve mostly gotten the hang of it, and I have to say that the survivalist aspect of the game really appeals to me, or at least it would, if every time I attempted it didn’t end with my character being mobbed by endless waves of giant worms. It seems like those enemies exist purely to disallow a “move into the wilderness, hunt and fortify” approach, which means that the survivalist side of the game is largely untenable, at least as far as i’ve been able to achieve. Want to be a rugged, wilderness hunter type? Here, have infinite waves of enemies immune to ranged weapons that run faster than you and have to be killed three times to stay down!

So, I was wondering, is there any way to disable the worms from spawning, by editing the game files or such? They’re pretty much killing the game for me, at least in the way I prefer to play it. Thanks!

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**Author:** ![i2amroy](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/discourse.cataclysmdda.org/i2amroy/32/909_2.png) [@i2amroy](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/u/i2amroy)\
**Post date:** [May 1, 2013, 2:30am UTC](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/cataclysm-infinite-f-ing-worms-ahead/1077/2 "2013-05-01T02:30:24Z")

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Are you playing dynamic or static spawn mode? Personally I’m in dynamic and I have yet to encounter a giant worm in all of my game playing (my few forays into static spawn, on the other hand, have been overwrought by them).

And yeah you could download your own version of cataclysm-DDA (avaliable [here](https://github.com/TheDarklingWolf/Cataclysm-DDA)), mod out giant worms, and then compile it yourself, though it’s a fair amount of work if you haven’t done anything similar before.

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**Author:** ![DinoCat](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/discourse.cataclysmdda.org/dinocat/32/837_2.png) [@DinoCat](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/u/DinoCat)\
**Post date:** [May 1, 2013, 2:32am UTC](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/cataclysm-infinite-f-ing-worms-ahead/1077/3 "2013-05-01T02:32:08Z")

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In data/raw/monstergroups.json, you can edit the GROUP\_WORM entry and change them to creatures of your choice, or mon\_null in place of mon\_worm, mon\_graboid, etc.

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**Author:** ![Solusphere](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/discourse.cataclysmdda.org/solusphere/32/66_2.png) [@Solusphere](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/u/Solusphere)\
**Post date:** [May 1, 2013, 2:38am UTC](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/cataclysm-infinite-f-ing-worms-ahead/1077/4 "2013-05-01T02:38:32Z")

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I’m playing static, but the worms seem to count as wildlife, and so spawn infinitely, as far as I can tell. Before my latest character died, he killed ~25 of them around my farmhouse, and they still kept coming. Its wierd that you haven’t encountered them. Maybe they just tend to spawn in huge numbers in certain areas?

I was hoping there would be a simple config file or something that I could edit, as actual coding is a bit beyond me. I guess I could try just building a house from scratch somewhere without any map features, and hope I don’t inadvertently pick an infinite worm zone. Thanks for your help!

By the way, any advice on how to kill those things without resorting to melee would be welcome!

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**Author:** ![i2amroy](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/discourse.cataclysmdda.org/i2amroy/32/909_2.png) [@i2amroy](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/u/i2amroy)\
**Post date:** [May 1, 2013, 2:43am UTC](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/cataclysm-infinite-f-ing-worms-ahead/1077/5 "2013-05-01T02:43:44Z")

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> [@Solusphere](#):
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> By the way, any advice on how to kill those things without resorting to melee would be welcome!

I can’t really think of too much off the top of my head for killing them. You can trick them into going away from you by throwing something heavy though since they can only hear instead of having sight.

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**Author:** ![Ferodaktyl](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/discourse.cataclysmdda.org/ferodaktyl/32/56_2.png) [@Ferodaktyl](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/u/Ferodaktyl)\
**Post date:** [May 1, 2013, 3:10am UTC](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/cataclysm-infinite-f-ing-worms-ahead/1077/6 "2013-05-01T03:10:00Z")

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I only met them twice, both times in dynamic mode. I’d say it’s your luck that sucks and RNG having a laugh at you. Just reset the world so you wouldn’t meet them too early in game.

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**Author:** ![halberdsturgeon](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/7ab992/32.png) [@halberdsturgeon](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/u/halberdsturgeon)\
**Post date:** [May 1, 2013, 3:56am UTC](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/cataclysm-infinite-f-ing-worms-ahead/1077/7 "2013-05-01T03:56:54Z")

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It’s just luck. Dynamic vs static doesn’t seem to matter. Some areas spawn worms, most don’t - just refrain from using any area where worms roam as your dwelling. The same applies to triffids/fungaloids/swamp monsters.

This is one reason LMOE shelters are good safehouses in spite of their darkness. You’ll never come home to a bear or a vinebeast in your living room.

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**Author:** ![Nopkar](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/34f0e0/32.png) [@Nopkar](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/u/Nopkar)\
**Post date:** [May 1, 2013, 4:39am UTC](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/cataclysm-infinite-f-ing-worms-ahead/1077/8 "2013-05-01T04:39:02Z")

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I had a game where worms infested the town I started in…zombies + worms = bad time.

Current game, i’ve never seen a worm, other characters same fate

just depends, sounds like you’ve gotten unlucky

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**Author:** ![tacticalshark896](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/35a633/32.png) [@tacticalshark896](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/u/tacticalshark896)\
**Post date:** [May 1, 2013, 5:19am UTC](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/cataclysm-infinite-f-ing-worms-ahead/1077/9 "2013-05-01T05:19:17Z")

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idk if the dark worms are the same but my M72 LAW took the thing down and it didnt split up…

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**Author:** ![Jack\_Slinger](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/85e7bf/32.png) [@Jack\_Slinger](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/u/Jack_Slinger)\
**Post date:** [May 1, 2013, 10:30am UTC](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/cataclysm-infinite-f-ing-worms-ahead/1077/10 "2013-05-01T10:30:36Z")

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It doesn’t matter what spawn mode your on iirc, worm zones are fairly rare and visually indistinguishable on the map but have fuck loads of worms on them. If you take the road far enough I think you can loose them.

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**Author:** ![Sheb](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/e99b99/32.png) [@Sheb](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/u/Sheb)\
**Post date:** [May 1, 2013, 10:35am UTC](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/cataclysm-infinite-f-ing-worms-ahead/1077/11 "2013-05-01T10:35:03Z")

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Could ba a good use for a radio or a noise emitter, just throw it away to draw the worms and run away.

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**Author:** ![grisamentum](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/65b543/32.png) [@grisamentum](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/u/grisamentum)\
**Post date:** [May 1, 2013, 4:39pm UTC](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/cataclysm-infinite-f-ing-worms-ahead/1077/12 "2013-05-01T16:39:38Z")

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> [@tacticalshark896](#):
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> idk if the dark worms are the same but my M72 LAW took the thing down and it didnt split up…

dark wyrms are different from worms

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**Author:** ![i2amroy](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/discourse.cataclysmdda.org/i2amroy/32/909_2.png) [@i2amroy](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/u/i2amroy)\
**Post date:** [May 1, 2013, 5:14pm UTC](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/cataclysm-infinite-f-ing-worms-ahead/1077/13 "2013-05-01T17:14:16Z")

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For comparison:

Giant Worm:

![](http://www.derekhess.com/images/upload/16/lg_image/shai-hulude_0002-big.jpg)

Dark Wyrm:

![](http://images.sodahead.com/profiles/0/0/2/1/8/6/3/7/9/dragon-black-evil-dark-magic-power-wyrm-26004196218.jpeg)

Bit of a difference there :P.

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**Author:** ![Mrnocamera](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/discourse.cataclysmdda.org/mrnocamera/32/61_2.png) [@Mrnocamera](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/u/Mrnocamera)\
**Post date:** [May 1, 2013, 5:22pm UTC](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/cataclysm-infinite-f-ing-worms-ahead/1077/14 "2013-05-01T17:22:11Z")

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So I took down a dragon with a baseball bat… Interesting.

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**Author:** ![i2amroy](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/discourse.cataclysmdda.org/i2amroy/32/909_2.png) [@i2amroy](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/u/i2amroy)\
**Post date:** [May 1, 2013, 5:31pm UTC](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/cataclysm-infinite-f-ing-worms-ahead/1077/15 "2013-05-01T17:31:18Z")

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Small note, after taking a closer look at the game files it appears a dark wyrm is more similar to this:

 ![](http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-EhHM1Gv4diY/TZBWyQ6mQHI/AAAAAAAAA5U/ZDtpWBZk98Q/s1600/wyrm2.jpg)

Only covered with acid. Still a dragon, just not quite the type that I posted originally.

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**Author:** ![TurningBreeze](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/cab0a1/32.png) [@TurningBreeze](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/u/TurningBreeze)\
**Post date:** [May 2, 2013, 6:10am UTC](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/cataclysm-infinite-f-ing-worms-ahead/1077/16 "2013-05-02T06:10:55Z")

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I dunno about “infinite” actually. In one of my more successful playthroughs, my evac shelter was in worm territory. They seemed to stop spawning a little while after the zombies did (dynamic spawn). I noticed because I liked to hunt them for leather.

Incidentally, a character with fleet footed and high bow proficiency won’t find them all that threatening, especially while wearing kevlar and with nearby pavement to hide on in case of emergency. They get right up to you, but die before they get an attack in since you’re practically guaranteed headshots at pointblank range.

Then there’s graboids… _shudder_

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**Author:** ![BMacZero](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/discourse.cataclysmdda.org/bmaczero/32/926_2.png) [@BMacZero](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/u/BMacZero)\
**Post date:** [May 14, 2013, 7:58am UTC](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/cataclysm-infinite-f-ing-worms-ahead/1077/17 "2013-05-14T07:58:53Z")

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Worm-killing competition, anyone? This was ONE FIELD full of worms. I thought I’d be fine in a truck, but it got clogged up in the sheer numbers of them.

 ![](http://i429.photobucket.com/albums/qq18/bmaczero/Keep/worms_zps4d3149d9.png)

Yeah, darn those things.

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**Author:** ![Iosyn](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/discourse.cataclysmdda.org/iosyn/32/35_2.png) [@Iosyn](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/u/Iosyn)\
**Post date:** [May 14, 2013, 2:56pm UTC](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/cataclysm-infinite-f-ing-worms-ahead/1077/18 "2013-05-14T14:56:57Z")

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We should be able to tame them.

Or at least ride them.

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**Author:** ![Sharp](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/bbce88/32.png) [@Sharp](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/u/Sharp)\
**Post date:** [May 14, 2013, 3:12pm UTC](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/cataclysm-infinite-f-ing-worms-ahead/1077/19 "2013-05-14T15:12:16Z")

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I haven’t had any worms in any of my last characters…

lots of towns with nether creatures and swamps of doom but still no worms…I keep carrying a radio for nothing!

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**Author:** ![Caconym](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/aca169/32.png) [@Caconym](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/u/Caconym)\
**Post date:** [May 14, 2013, 3:23pm UTC](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/cataclysm-infinite-f-ing-worms-ahead/1077/20 "2013-05-14T15:23:56Z")

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[quote=“Sharp, post:19, topic:1077”]I haven’t had any worms in any of my last characters…

lots of towns with nether creatures and swamps of doom but still no worms…I keep carrying a radio for nothing![/quote]  
But the moment you (unintentionally)forget to bring that radio with you expect worms everywhere.

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