Cataclysm: Easy Days Ahead (AKA, DDA is way too damned easy)

[Killer-of-Lawyers]

Unrealworld mode is a fun change. Jumping for joy when you find the various scattered special places is a fun treat, but it should remain as an option.

Either way, rivet’s pull request is a good step. If people want to adjust the settings one way or another they should.

What about more world gen options and the ability to scale things like ant nests, labs, and such? Play a rugged survival game with few labs or bases to loot, making what you need from sticks and furs while dodging the ever present ant, ect. ect.

Another option could be to organize the JSON’s with headers for the type of item and possibly other things. Think the high end guns are too easy? So a search and remove everything under that heading from the JSON, or even add a world gen config toggle. Play a distant future where the best you can get is flintlocks, and the only clothes you can make is that wierd get up from Zardos.

[ClaytonRISING]

[quote=“Killer-of-Lawyers, post:98, topic:4220”]Why should the games items and new systems, which are fun for a lot of people, be removed to suit your needs?

I mean, it’s not like all those new items aren’t in the JSON. You can open them up yourself with notepad++ and delete them. I find that it’s sickening that we have to make doing any bit of technical work to the file structures easy for you newbies? To be fair, the JSON’s go to far as making the files easy for the likes of you to access. You don’t need to mess with the source. Do you know why it’s called programming? Because it is an esoteric skill from the dawn of computing, and therefore it must remain the same forever.

Now I must write a long op about how everything should be done in COBOL. I bet you’re going to ask that they add a menu that lets you individually edit various spawns next too, you goddamn lazy coder![/quote]

What the hell are you even going on about? So, instead of trying to balance the game, us people who think it’s too easy should have to change the JSON files (to what end exactly, I have no idea) every time there is a new version? Curse those who play experimental builds, aye?

We cant just edit the JSON files and make the game harder. It doesn’t work like that. Thank you for your suggestion (?) or whatever it was.

It usually takes me about ten/fifteen lives before I get a good long-term character going. I’m beginning to think, for my own humble viewpoint, that the OP is trolling.

No, not trolling.

[quote=“Pageman, post:108, topic:4220”]Mega city + high spawn rate + black road is easy for you? boring? in my experiences i only survived 2 out of 10 times i tried.
Even with op martial artist, be surrounded by hundreds of thousands zombies is certain death. Numbers. That is what make the zombies scary. try to pump up the spawn rate to feel how a real zombie apocalypse would be like.
Someone suggested the gang up bonus for zombies when surrounded. I think is a great idea, no normal person could dodge 8 attacks at the same time. [/quote]

We shouldn’t have to crank up spawns just for a challenge. How is doubling, tripling or even quadrupling the amount of zombies supposed to make the game any more enjoyable or harder? They don’t present a challenge by themselves, even the “hard” zombies like Brutes and Hulks, so we have to multiply the amount of them? That doesn’t make sense. Woo! for the option to adjust zombie spawns to our tastes, but it doesn’t change anything.

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And since someone did bring it up, the skills system is pretty damned…silly. I mean, look at all the people just blatantly power leveling them…

But, alas, I don’t want anyone to get butt hurt from another opinion/statement.

[Inadequate]

I don’t see what’s so hard to understand about his statement. You think ___ is overpowered? Look it up in the .json and delete it, and it doesn’t exist in your game. The entire point of the .json is that it makes it fairly easy for any one player to modify his own game to his liking, and will be even easier when the mod manager is merged in, without making a fuss for other people.

Your original three suggestions were: turn item spawns down, take out the weapons you don’t like and take out the mechanics you don’t like. The first one was catered for, the second and third are done exactly by deleting them from the files if you don’t like them. I don’t know how you can go ‘you can’t just delete stuff from the files and make the game harder’ when that’s exactly what you’ve been calling for since the very beginning. If you admit that those won’t actually improve the game experience, why were you calling for that in the first place?

[100Rads]

Couldnt we just get another option (like the spawn size) that is used to toggle item spawns? Ramping it up would give you stuff dropping out your ass, and going under 1 would give you extremely small amounts of stuff.

[ClaytonRISING]

The OP weapons are a factor, yes. But I was calling more for controlling the direction CDDA moves in new content wise. If just any person can contribute weapons, and the only requirement be that they are functional, then there is something wrong. Balance. Balance.

Balance.

Balance.

Balance.

Balance.

Balance.

Understand?

And I don’t plan on editing the json files ever single time I download a new experimental. No thank you. I know very well that I have that option and that they were made for exactly that reason, but using, “you have the power!” as an excuse to not balance the game is kind of silly.

[Inadequate]

Really? New content-wise, all I see is people calling for nerfs to weapons and adding in more complicated mechanics for the sake of complexity. And if you really wanted to help balance out the game, you could contribute as well. Mess around with the weapon values, make your own balanced set of weapons, put in your own request and make a compelling case for ClaytonDDA. If the people who add in fun stuff like the generators put in the effort to make sure their mechanic keeps up with all the new experimentals, surely you can put in the same amount of effort to change those values and make an objective case for your tweaks. As it stands, you simply don’t have much actual evidence to go on.

100Rads: Actually, an item spawn rate option was submitted a few pages earlier. Should be going into an experimental soon.

[ClaytonRISING]

I’ve contributed; actually, odds are, you’ve probably used my weapon mods before or one of my weapons (M14 is the only thing I can remember, though haha)

There is a loot spawn factor going in, so I think we all can stop bitching complaining about others’ opinions for now.

[Inadequate]

Yes, I suppose that would be for the best. At least one practical mechanic arose out of this mess.

[Killer-of-Lawyers]

The man who started a thread called DDA is too damned easy now wants us to stop complaining, and does so without any irony. The internet is a gift to mankind.

Anyways, if you don’t like feature creep, take it out yourself. If you can bitch that it’s not true to the spirit of a game from the fucking 80’s then I can bitch about people whining that editing a bunch of text files is too hard. I bet you use a fucking mouse now. Might as well be a win robot you plug into your USB port, and don’t get me started on USB ports. You should use serial ports, you ungrateful kid.

[ClaytonRISING]

Killer-of-Lawyers, please, learn how to read before you puke a reply on to the thread. Thanks, yo.

And you shouldn’t call people a “kid” if you have no idea how old they are; it shows how much of a fucktard you are.

[Inadequate]

[quote=“Clayton”]I just turned 20 recently, young I know. I somehow find time to play computer games between all my drinking and recreational drugs.

Seriously, I party more than a 40 year old man probably has.

I can feel my liver and lunges trying to start a rebellion in my body. I think they already have my spleen and stomach on their side. I WILL CRUSH THIS REBELLION!

I will drown them in Jeager and Vodka and Irish Cream Liquor. DEATH TO THE REBELS!

But really, I’ll probably be one of those statistics of people partying literately to death.[/quote]

[Killer-of-Lawyers]

[quote=“Inadequate, post:121, topic:4220”][quote=“Clayton”]I just turned 20 recently, young I know. I somehow find time to play computer games between all my drinking and recreational drugs.

Seriously, I party more than a 40 year old man probably has.

I can feel my liver and lunges trying to start a rebellion in my body. I think they already have my spleen and stomach on their side. I WILL CRUSH THIS REBELLION!

I will drown them in Jeager and Vodka and Irish Cream Liquor. DEATH TO THE REBELS!

But really, I’ll probably be one of those statistics of people partying literately to death.[/quote][/quote]

Fucking lol. I don’t even need to add anything to that.

[ClaytonRISING]

Hahahahahaha, ooowwwhhhhh. You proved me wrong! Good job! I’m glad what have mongoloids like you to contribute to the discussion, which I’ve been trying to end cause you guys are butt hurt as fuck.

[Killer-of-Lawyers]

Hahahahahaha, ooowwwhhhhh. You proved me wrong! Good job! I’m glad what have mongoloids like you to contribute to the discussion, which I’ve been trying to end cause you guys are butt hurt as fuck.

I too enjoy throwing around slurs at people when I’m angry. Mongoloids! Perhaps next you should complain about the Negroids!

[RadaRadaRada]

Clayton, I understand your case on direction of game and personally agree that game is a bit too easy, but I have to ask: do you know what is the direction of game, the main developers are trying to achieve?

Otherwise, your opinion on it, is good as anyone’s on how the game should be. There was lots of work done to move hard-coded data to json’s, for purpose of easily tailoring the game to each of our own personal liking.

Except, you refuse to even do that.

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I personally, suggest to wait for what the developers have to say on this issue and then discuss more.

[John_Candlebury]

You know when did the thread become a place to start assaulting each other?

Can’t you people share opinions and views on the game without the need to verbally fight? I mean if you posted this in the discussion board for additions to the game you should be ready to meet criticism.

[ClaytonRISING]

I too enjoy throwing around slurs at people when I’m angry. Mongoloids! Perhaps next you should complain about the Negroids!

It’s poetically ironic: You came here insulting…because you’re butt hurt…and now you’re bitching about me rebutting in the same manner?

Haha!

You guys are winners. Don’t let anyone ever tell you differently.

[quote=“RadaRadaRada, post:125, topic:4220”]Clayton, I understand your case on direction of game and personally agree that game is a bit too easy, but I have to ask: do you know what is the direction of game, the main developers are trying to achieve?

Otherwise, your opinion on it, is good as anyone’s on how the game should be. There was lots of work done to move hard-coded data to json’s, for purpose of easily tailoring the game to each of our own personal liking.

Except, you refuse to even do that.

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I personally, suggest to wait for what the developers have to say on this issue and then discuss more.[/quote]

Seriously guys, read. Read.

The JSONs have nothing to do with making the game harder. Oh, ok, I can remove the OP weapons. What does that accomplish? It doesn’t stop the spawning of huge caches of weapons and ammo; it doesn’t balance the game.

I love the work on the JSON files. I remember when they first were implanted, I was like, “Fuck yeah!”.
But they aren’t a viable option for balancing the game.

[Killer-of-Lawyers]

[quote=“John Candlebury, post:126, topic:4220”]You know when did the thread become a place to start assaulting each other?

Can’t you people share opinions and views on the game without the need to verbally fight? I mean if you posted this in the discussion board for additions to the game you should be ready to meet criticism.[/quote]

I think Clayton’s liver is just rebelling. I don’t really see it as a verbal fight, anyways. I mean, is it really a fight to call someone out on using an offensive slur like that? I mean, I kind of want to give him double points for it being offensive to asians and people with down’s syndrome.

I mean, apparently my chiding of him with my post is on the level of slurs, but hey, clayton know’s best with his experience in life.

[ClaytonRISING]

[quote=“Killer-of-Lawyers, post:128, topic:4220”][quote=“John Candlebury, post:126, topic:4220”]You know when did the thread become a place to start assaulting each other?

Can’t you people share opinions and views on the game without the need to verbally fight? I mean if you posted this in the discussion board for additions to the game you should be ready to meet criticism.[/quote]

I think Clayton’s liver is just rebelling. I don’t really see it as a verbal fight, anyways. I mean, is it really a fight to call someone out on using an offensive slur like that? I mean, I kind of want to give him double points for it being offensive to asians and people with down’s syndrome.

I mean, apparently my chiding of him with my post is on the level of slurs, but hey, Clayton know’s best with his experience in life. [/quote]

My point exactly. Killer-of-Lawyers, if you aren’t here to actually add to the discussion, please leave. Thannnnkkkkks, yo.

You came here insulting me; you obviously cant have an intelligent debate. But from the flaming-butt-hurt I’ve seen earlier in this thread, I can see why you felt invited.

I’ll just go ahead and lock the thread.

[GlyphGryph]

Yeah, no. This thread is getting locked, and when I have time, I’m going to be crawling through it and giving warnings to those who deserve them. Keep it chill, this is not a place to insult other people.