Cataclysm: Dark Days Ahead version 0.9 Ma released

kevin.granade · 2014-01-01T02:31:42.000Z

CIB:

[quote=“Kevin Granade, post:90, topic:3997”]like nearly any chemistry process are simply not things you’re going to just figure out via repitition.

I’m not clear on the mechancis here. Is this about requiring some background knowledge(aka skill), or actual knowledge of the precise recipe? Because, you know, the job of a well educated chemist is not really to make something according to recipe, it’s more to come up with new recipes and processes through thought and experimentation. Someone with a decent understanding of chemistry will indeed be able to come up with new recipes, simply by looking at what materials they have, what they want to produce, and lots of trial and error.[/quote]
I don’t see chemistry skill as representing formal chemistry education, especially to the level of a professional chemist where you have a broad enough knowledge base to come up with new chemical reactions. It’s more like lab technician level stuff, where you learn to perform the steps, but don’t necessarally have a total understanding of how everything works.

Binky · 2014-01-05T18:24:37.000Z

Any ETA for the next stable version?

kevin.granade · 2014-01-05T19:12:47.000Z

All my zipping around the country is over for now, I’m settling in in Seattle, so I’m going to start the release process by marking release-blockers, and the release will be whenever that list is emptied and I have time to do it.
So VERY loose ETA is Jan 18th.

jcannon98188 · 2014-01-13T23:19:18.000Z

[quote=“Kevin Granade, post:100, topic:3997”]All my zipping around the country is over for now, I’m settling in in Seattle, so I’m going to start the release process by marking release-blockers, and the release will be whenever that list is emptied and I have time to do it.
So VERY loose ETA is Jan 18th.[/quote]

You moved to Seattle? Sweet, what part? I’m down in Federal Way, just 5 minutes north of Tacoma

Zireael · 2014-01-15T09:29:14.000Z

GlyphGryph:

Also, adding in a ‘research’ action that you can do with the right environment and supplies is actually planned. But no one is going to program that while all the good recipes are easily available through auto-learning!

That would be the best.

Also, I saw that mod manager made it in! Can’t wait for the 18th…

juliawang87 · 2014-01-16T22:02:47.000Z

Is there a thread somewhere that mentions what’s being worked on? Or is it expect that we try one of the incremental builds to see what’s different? Like, I have not seen any talk about Z-levels since the Kickstarter and was curious when that might start being implemented.

Looking forward to the 18th, too, if it pans out, lol.

Binky · 2014-01-17T15:52:39.000Z

[quote=“juliawang87, post:103, topic:3997”]Is there a thread somewhere that mentions what’s being worked on? Or is it expect that we try one of the incremental builds to see what’s different? Like, I have not seen any talk about Z-levels since the Kickstarter and was curious when that might start being implemented.

Looking forward to the 18th, too, if it pans out, lol. ^_^[/quote]

Not really a thread available unfortunately - the drawing room and Lab tend to have a few topics which are being worked on. I suspect the experimental branches are the best way to look at new stuff, although you could look at the github page ( https://github.com/CleverRaven/Cataclysm-DDA) and the commits, but they’re rather difficult to sort though.

i2amroy · 2014-01-17T20:50:00.000Z

juliawang87:

Is there a thread somewhere that mentions what’s being worked on? Or is it expect that we try one of the incremental builds to see what’s different? Like, I have not seen any talk about Z-levels since the Kickstarter and was curious when that might start being implemented.

Z-levels are… kinda in limbo right now due to the disappearance of our second developer. (It’s kinda creepy actually, having now had two developers basically disappear off the face of the earth, no email response, no phone response, I know for at least one of them even his family couldn’t get in touch with him. It’s like someone is going around kidnapping our developers O_o). That said we do still have $2000 or so left (since it was pay-as-you-go work), so we’re looking at maybe potentially setting up a bounty system for various tasks.

FunsizeNinja123 · 2014-01-17T21:13:16.000Z

So Galen is gone?

Um…

100Rads · 2014-01-18T07:42:01.000Z

Somebody is stealing them.

Drakasin · 2014-01-18T08:44:48.000Z

But what about experimental build #588 from 15.1.? Seems like galenevil did some things http://ci.narc.ro/view/Cataclysm-DDA/job/Cataclysm-Matrix/Graphics=Tiles,Platform=Windows/588/changes

deadmerits · 2014-01-18T09:39:25.000Z

100Rads:

Somebody is stealing them.

You know who…

Slash/ really galen is gone?

I know I haven’t seen him in awhile but I thought behind the scenes was being overworked…

Binky · 2014-01-18T13:52:58.000Z

I’d really suggest a code bounty as a way to get things moving, there’s probably loads of people about who would be willing to do it with a little incentive. Even if the pay wasn’t great (/didn’t really translate into a good hourly rate) I imagine there are enough people who could be interested in making a bit of extra cash to do something they enjoy anyway.

infectedmochi · 2014-01-18T13:55:52.000Z

Unless I’m mistaken the developers are using this method, not sure if anyone has stepped up and take the job yet.

kevin.granade · 2014-01-19T01:29:33.000Z

Yes we’re looking at putting the remainder of the money into a code bounty system targeting some deliverables around the remaining kickstarter features. The problem is to do that we have to do the planning and task breakdown for the goals, which is often one of the hardest parts of developing a feature >_<

Then we’ll take donations on an ad-hoc basis for further work (users can post “bounties” on whatever bugs or feature requests they like).

Nighthawk · 2014-01-19T02:22:57.000Z

Heh. Bounties. I like that idea.

Sanarr · 2014-01-30T14:34:53.000Z

Sorry to bother but… any ETA on 0.A release?

John_Candlebury · 2014-01-30T14:40:29.000Z

YES, I getting released when its DONE.

Nor but really current experimental are pretty much 0.A now, only a small amount of bug fixing is missing

bubbadoo14 · 2014-02-01T05:13:34.000Z

[quote=“John Candlebury, post:115, topic:3997”]YES, I getting released when its DONE.

Nor but really current experimental are pretty much 0.A now, only a small amount of bug fixing is missing[/quote]
Can someone please explain why it’s called 0.A and not a number like 1.0 or 0.10?

kevin.granade · 2014-02-01T07:00:34.000Z

0.10 is bad because versioning needs to be well-ordered lexographically, in which case 0.10 is an earlier version than 0.9.
1.0 implies a level of “finished-ness” that we haven’t achieved. We aren’t going to call it 1.0 until we have at least all the kickstarter features implemented.