# Carbombs could use some work
**URL:** https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/carbombs-could-use-some-work/18229
**Category:** The Garage
**Created:** [January 7, 2019, 4:55am UTC](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/carbombs-could-use-some-work/18229 "2019-01-07T04:55:20Z")
**Posts on this page:** 8
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### Author:  [@kevin.granade](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/u/kevin.granade)
#### Post date: [January 7, 2019, 4:55am UTC](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/carbombs-could-use-some-work/18229/1 "2019-01-07T04:55:20Z")
Set off an ANFO charge in a beetle. Not only is the car partially intact, but it shielded the ground from the blast, so it’s sitting on a pillar of ground in the middle of the crater.
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### Author:  [@Trigon](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/u/Trigon)
#### Post date: [January 7, 2019, 6:48am UTC](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/carbombs-could-use-some-work/18229/2 "2019-01-07T06:48:37Z")
Truly next level tactical explosive insertion.
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### Author:  [@ecchi\_squid](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/u/ecchi_squid)
#### Post date: [January 7, 2019, 10:15am UTC](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/carbombs-could-use-some-work/18229/3 "2019-01-07T10:15:12Z")
Can you still drive it? Lol
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### Author:  [@mlangsdorf](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/u/mlangsdorf)
#### Post date: [January 7, 2019, 1:46pm UTC](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/carbombs-could-use-some-work/18229/4 "2019-01-07T13:46:45Z")
Part of me feels that’s a semi-reasonable result, but any explosion that carves out 4+ cubic meters of dirt around a car should vaporize the car.
Heck, the Mythbusters vaporized a cement truck and the crater was smaller than what you have there.
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### Author:  [@nameless\_survivor](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/u/nameless_survivor)
#### Post date: [January 7, 2019, 3:00pm UTC](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/carbombs-could-use-some-work/18229/5 "2019-01-07T15:00:36Z")
Man, using tilesets has spoiled me, because it took me a minute to figure out what everything was.
I’d recommend looking for studies and data related to the various acts of terrorism over the last century if you want background information for more realistic effects of explosives on vehicles and the surroundings. There will be plenty of cases to draw from, with various locations of the explosive (inside the vehicle, below the vehicle, etc). Police reports and similar would have pictures of the damage to the originating vehicle and surrounding area, as well as estimates of the explosive yield, composition, and other data.
Police & military reports from England & Ireland during the [“Troubles”](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Troubles) would be one possibility. Military and scientific papers on the various [carbombs and truckbomb](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Car_bomb) attacks in Israel, Afghanistan, Iraq, and [the suicide bomb attack on the USS Cole](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/USS_Cole_bombing) are some other possibilities.
You might end up on an NSA watchlist googling all this though lol.
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### Author:  [@TheZoneWizard](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/u/TheZoneWizard)
#### Post date: [January 7, 2019, 7:44pm UTC](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/carbombs-could-use-some-work/18229/6 "2019-01-07T19:44:26Z")
Actually if you live in america you WILL be put onto their watch list. It is a known fact they have installed spy room hubs in all the major internet providers, that filter and monitor internet traffic. This was taking place back in the early 2000’s.
So when your toon makes this thing anfo? They can attach it to a vehicle? How does that work in game?
Is it even possible to run far enough away from it before it goes off? I was reading a thread about some explosive not giving enough time to escape the blast recently.
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### Author:  [@kevin.granade](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/u/kevin.granade)
#### Post date: [January 7, 2019, 9:06pm UTC](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/carbombs-could-use-some-work/18229/7 "2019-01-07T21:06:19Z")
If watch lists exist, I’m probably on all of them already. I research everything from explosives to chemical, biological and nuclear warfare, tactics, firearm construction and use, etc etc etc
> [@TheZoneWizard](#):
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> So when your toon makes this thing anfo?
> **How to ANFO**
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> First you make some ANFO.
> [https://github.com/CleverRaven/Cataclysm-DDA/blob/68f1f45fda437cf9dbc41c0d94b8bc7d34773691/data/json/recipes/recipe\_medsandchemicals.json#L2373-L2395](https://github.com/CleverRaven/Cataclysm-DDA/blob/68f1f45fda437cf9dbc41c0d94b8bc7d34773691/data/json/recipes/recipe_medsandchemicals.json#L2373-L2395)
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> Then you assemble it into a bomb.
> [https://github.com/CleverRaven/Cataclysm-DDA/blob/9382b2204f9613406d0931c11e49f774501ca74c/data/json/recipes/weapon/explosive.json#L270-L286](https://github.com/CleverRaven/Cataclysm-DDA/blob/9382b2204f9613406d0931c11e49f774501ca74c/data/json/recipes/weapon/explosive.json#L270-L286)
> [@TheZoneWizard](#):
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> They can attach it to a vehicle?
I didn’t attach it to the vehicle, I just dropped it in the back seat after lighting the fuse.
> [@TheZoneWizard](#):
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> Is it even possible to run far enough away from it before it goes off?
Easily, the blast itself isn’t much bigger than the crater you see (that’s super wrong from a how-explosives-work POV, but it’s a WIP). The fragments go much further, but you can just duck around the corner of a building and be fine. I was standing at the SE corner of the building next to the crater when the bomb went off (just north of the ‘P’), and didn’t take any damage (though I was probably deafened, I wasn’t paying attention to that).
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### Author:  [@nameless\_survivor](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/u/nameless_survivor)
#### Post date: [January 7, 2019, 9:52pm UTC](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/carbombs-could-use-some-work/18229/8 "2019-01-07T21:52:10Z")
It would be cool to be able to attach the explosives to the car, as a specific component. Basically you would be integrating it with the vehicle to allow for maximum yield.
Speaking of car bombs, here is one that’s not in the game. Yet.
> **[Irish Car Bomb](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Irish_Car_Bomb)**
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> An Irish Car Bomb, Irish Slammer, or Irish Bomb Shot is a cocktail, similar to a boilermaker, made by dropping a shot of Irish cream and whiskey into a glass of stout.
> The "Irish" in the name refers to the drink's Irish ingredients; typically Guinness stout, Baileys Irish Cream, and Jameson Irish Whiskey.
> The term "car bomb" combines reference to its "bomb shot" style as well as the noted car bombings of Northern Ireland's Troubles.