# Can't find stairs
**URL:** https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/cant-find-stairs/8644
**Category:** The Garage
**Created:** [January 17, 2015, 1:16am UTC](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/cant-find-stairs/8644 "2015-01-17T01:16:47Z")
**Posts on this page:** 8
**Page:** 1
### Author:  [@Bonevomit](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/u/Bonevomit)
#### Post date: [January 17, 2015, 1:16am UTC](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/cant-find-stairs/8644/1 "2015-01-17T01:16:47Z")
I’m playing version 488d615 on windows
I do a lab-challenge and the game can never find the stairs, this causes me to spawn at random somewhere in the world.
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### Author:  [@Coolthulhu](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/u/Coolthulhu)
#### Post date: [January 17, 2015, 1:28am UTC](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/cant-find-stairs/8644/2 "2015-01-17T01:28:07Z")
Your city size is too big for labs to spawn.
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### Author:  [@Bonevomit](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/u/Bonevomit)
#### Post date: [January 17, 2015, 1:30am UTC](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/cant-find-stairs/8644/3 "2015-01-17T01:30:34Z")
> [@Coolthulhu](#):
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> Your city size is too big for labs to spawn.
No, I just checked that and it still happens with a city size of 1.
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### Author:  [@Coolthulhu](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/u/Coolthulhu)
#### Post date: [January 17, 2015, 1:39am UTC](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/cant-find-stairs/8644/4 "2015-01-17T01:39:27Z")
OK, checked the json: city has to be big enough (size 4-12), but at the same time it needs to be at least 8 overmap tiles away.
Try medium city sizes, like 4-6.
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### Author:  [@Bonevomit](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/u/Bonevomit)
#### Post date: [January 17, 2015, 1:43am UTC](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/cant-find-stairs/8644/5 "2015-01-17T01:43:43Z")
[quote=“Coolthulhu, post:4, topic:8644”]OK, checked the json: city has to be big enough (size 4-12), but at the same time it needs to be at least 8 overmap tiles away.
Try medium city sizes, like 4-6.[/quote]
I just noticed I accidently toggled on classic zombies.
When I shut that off it works every time. Go figure.
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### Author:  [@KA101](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/u/KA101)
#### Post date: [January 17, 2015, 1:53am UTC](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/cant-find-stairs/8644/6 "2015-01-17T01:53:23Z")
Classic zeds = no labs ☹
So yeah, that was the problem. Glad it’s working now.
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### Author:  [@Bonevomit](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/u/Bonevomit)
#### Post date: [January 17, 2015, 2:15am UTC](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/cant-find-stairs/8644/7 "2015-01-17T02:15:33Z")
Since I have your attention.
Have any of you noticed the many liquids that spawn in labs without containers?
I’m talking about the same version.
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### Author:  [@KA101](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/u/KA101)
#### Post date: [January 17, 2015, 2:30am UTC](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/cant-find-stairs/8644/8 "2015-01-17T02:30:29Z")
Known issue, being worked on.