# Canning pots and Braziers

**URL:** https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/canning-pots-and-braziers/27565
**Category:** The Bunker
**Created:** [February 2, 2022, 11:37am UTC](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/canning-pots-and-braziers/27565 "2022-02-02T11:37:01Z")
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### Author: ![deMangler](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/discourse.cataclysmdda.org/demangler/32/11750_2.png) [@deMangler](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/u/deMangler)
#### Post date: [February 2, 2022, 11:37am UTC](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/canning-pots-and-braziers/27565/1 "2022-02-02T11:37:01Z")

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I don’t have enough familiarity with the game yet to have a feel for what might be an issue or bug, or feature, or long-accepted-for-reasons thing, so I’ll just start chatting about it here for starters.  
0.F  
I love the crashed helecopter pilot start - done it a few times and had a few great deaths, however there was this one that was particularly unexpected.

I might tell the story somewhere, making a base in a rural house, cleared out a nearby camping site and private airport, had a couple of RV’s with good fuel etc, really lucked out, but to get to the point I had started to convert this house into the beginnings of a base, cleared out a nearby campsite and private airport and it was all good.

I was trying to get fresh water. Had a pond out the back and I built a brazier and a canning pot. Now - even though the canning pot has a boiling of 2, there was no option to boil water with it. Tried everything that would normally work but no option.  
After googling, I discovered you could place the pot on the brazier and leave it. I did that, and the water did reach the ‘hot’ stage, but never boiled, or turned into clean water, just hot.  
After tens of hours of trying these things, I am dangerously dehydrated so I drink a bit of the water to see… but it makes me ill and vomiting and that was the end of that.

Any ideas? From what I have googled, and from my previous experience, I should have been able to get clean water somehow with a fire, brazier, canning pot and water.

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### Author: ![smoelf](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/discourse.cataclysmdda.org/smoelf/32/8529_2.png) [@smoelf](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/u/smoelf)
#### Post date: [February 2, 2022, 11:46am UTC](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/canning-pots-and-braziers/27565/2 "2022-02-02T11:46:00Z")

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Did you use the crafting menu? There is a recipe for ‘Clean Water’. If it doesn’t let you craft clean water that way, does it then tell you what you are lacking to do it?

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### Author: ![deMangler](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/discourse.cataclysmdda.org/demangler/32/11750_2.png) [@deMangler](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/u/deMangler)
#### Post date: [February 2, 2022, 11:59am UTC](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/canning-pots-and-braziers/27565/3 "2022-02-02T11:59:53Z")

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From memory, I tried that first - it said that something with at least boiling of 1 was missing.  
I checked the can and it was showing as boiling 2

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### Author: ![Valase](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/discourse.cataclysmdda.org/valase/32/6972_2.png) [@Valase](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/u/Valase)
#### Post date: [February 2, 2022, 4:03pm UTC](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/canning-pots-and-braziers/27565/4 "2022-02-02T16:03:01Z")

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> [@deMangler](#):
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> I checked the can and it was showing as boiling 2

Here’s one of the weird quirks of Cataclysm Dark Days Ahead: You can’t (at least in the 0.F stable release) use the container filled with something in a crafting recipe, even if it uses whatever is in it. So you’ll need another container with (at least) boiling 1 (an opened `alumin`(i)`um can` would be enough to turn all the water in the pot into clean water).

As for boiling water when near a fire, I might remember that wrong, but I think this was implemented in an experimental version after 0.F… and I think it needs to be a `raging fire`.

Edit: I’ve checked, 0.F was released on the 3. July 2021, and the pull request for fire boiling nearby water (#51075) was merged on 28. August 2021, so it is indeed not in the game version you’re playing.

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### Author: ![deMangler](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/discourse.cataclysmdda.org/demangler/32/11750_2.png) [@deMangler](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/u/deMangler)
#### Post date: [February 2, 2022, 4:21pm UTC](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/canning-pots-and-braziers/27565/5 "2022-02-02T16:21:24Z")

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Thanks - understanding that quirk is definitely going to help me out.  
Also, I mis-understood that this…

> <https://github.com/CleverRaven/Cataclysm-DDA/pull/51075>
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> \#### Summary
> Features "Boiling water (with physics) makes it safe to drink"
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> \#### Purpose of change
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> The existing recipe for boiling water has several restrictions. Players are unable to step away from the fire while waiting for the water to boil. In addition, a player needs an empty item with the boiling quality. This leads to unexpected situations where a survivor with just a pot full of water and a fire cannot boil the water. 
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> \#### Describe the solution
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> Add a check to convert water into clean water if it reaches the boiling temperature. The existing physically based heat system takes care of the rest.
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> As part of this change, we encapsulate the shared temperature flag logic into \`item::set\_temp\_flags\` and define the \`temperatures::boiling\` constant.
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> \#### Describe alternatives you've considered
> \- Add an option to \`heat\_item\` to boil water.
> - This approach requires the player to stand by the fire, and is somewhat less realistic.
> \- Add a comprehensive boiling / auto-ignition system.
> - This approach would be interesting project, but is out of scope for this change. 
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> \#### Testing
> Tested pot filled with water:
> 1. Put the pot on a fire.
> 4. Waited \<30 minutes.
> 5. The water is now clean!
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> Tested jug filled with water:
> 1. Put the jug on a fire.
> 4. The jug burns / melts.
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> Tested 60L tank filled with water
> 1. Put the tank on the fire.
> 4. Waited ~5 hours.
> 5. The water is now clean!
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> \#### Additional context

…merge would have made it in.

I am falling in love with this whole project 🙂

_edit_ ninjad by your edit…

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### Author: ![Valase](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/discourse.cataclysmdda.org/valase/32/6972_2.png) [@Valase](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/u/Valase)
#### Post date: [February 2, 2022, 4:39pm UTC](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/canning-pots-and-braziers/27565/6 "2022-02-02T16:39:22Z")

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> [@deMangler](#):
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> Also, I mis-understood that [#51075] merge would have made it in.

To be honest for a moment I thought so too, given that 0.F-3 was published in November… but then I remembered that usually only bugfixes make it into revisions, and checking the changelog confirmed that it wasn’t included… 😃