# Can zombies or hostiles track you downstairs with wander spawns on?

**URL:** <https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/can-zombies-or-hostiles-track-you-downstairs-with-wander-spawns-on/14581>\
**Category:** The Bunker\
**Created:** [December 3, 2017, 1:20am UTC](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/can-zombies-or-hostiles-track-you-downstairs-with-wander-spawns-on/14581 "2017-12-03T01:20:13Z")\
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**Author:** ![enigma74](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/35a633/32.png) [@enigma74](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/u/enigma74)\
**Post date:** [December 3, 2017, 1:20am UTC](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/can-zombies-or-hostiles-track-you-downstairs-with-wander-spawns-on/14581/1 "2017-12-03T01:20:13Z")

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Trying to figure out if any enemies can randomly wander into a underground basement level if wander spawns arw enabled. Otherwise, many basements are quite strong for recovering if you are wounded.

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**Author:** ![tarburst98](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/discourse.cataclysmdda.org/tarburst98/32/1355_2.png) [@tarburst98](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/u/tarburst98)\
**Post date:** [December 3, 2017, 1:32am UTC](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/can-zombies-or-hostiles-track-you-downstairs-with-wander-spawns-on/14581/2 "2017-12-03T01:32:46Z")

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no, wander spawns generates hordes, the enemies don’t actually spawn until they enter the reality bubble, which only exists on your current floor.

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**Author:** ![Mantar](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/discourse.cataclysmdda.org/mantar/32/42_2.png) [@Mantar](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/u/Mantar)\
**Post date:** [December 3, 2017, 1:35am UTC](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/can-zombies-or-hostiles-track-you-downstairs-with-wander-spawns-on/14581/3 "2017-12-03T01:35:49Z")

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This holds only if z-levels are off. If they’re on, enemies can spawn upstairs and travel downward if they catch your scent or sound.

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**Author:** ![kevin.granade](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/discourse.cataclysmdda.org/kevin.granade/32/1316_2.png) [@kevin.granade](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/u/kevin.granade)\
**Post date:** [December 3, 2017, 2:48am UTC](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/can-zombies-or-hostiles-track-you-downstairs-with-wander-spawns-on/14581/4 "2017-12-03T02:48:46Z")

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@Mantar speaks truth, though that z-level option Wil be always on once some performance issues and glitches are sorted out.

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**Author:** ![enigma74](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/35a633/32.png) [@enigma74](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/u/enigma74)\
**Post date:** [December 3, 2017, 8:13am UTC](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/can-zombies-or-hostiles-track-you-downstairs-with-wander-spawns-on/14581/5 "2017-12-03T08:13:13Z")

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Thanks all. I’ll keep those experimental z levels off for now and pretend every downstairs is like a deep underground. I can’t wait until z levels are normal though.

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**Author:** ![NuG](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/discourse.cataclysmdda.org/nug/32/7057_2.png) [@NuG](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/u/NuG)\
**Post date:** [December 3, 2017, 10:14pm UTC](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/can-zombies-or-hostiles-track-you-downstairs-with-wander-spawns-on/14581/6 "2017-12-03T22:14:49Z")

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Could you mine/build downstairs 2 levels with zlvls on and have the same protection?

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**Author:** ![kevin.granade](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/discourse.cataclysmdda.org/kevin.granade/32/1316_2.png) [@kevin.granade](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/u/kevin.granade)\
**Post date:** [December 4, 2017, 2:22am UTC](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/can-zombies-or-hostiles-track-you-downstairs-with-wander-spawns-on/14581/7 "2017-12-04T02:22:48Z")

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For now, yes. Anything that gets you on a different z- level prevents monsters from taking turns.