# Can you make foldable vehicles if you use the foldable frames?
**URL:** https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/can-you-make-foldable-vehicles-if-you-use-the-foldable-frames/7030
**Category:** The Bunker
**Created:** [August 8, 2014, 9:35am UTC](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/can-you-make-foldable-vehicles-if-you-use-the-foldable-frames/7030 "2014-08-08T09:35:02Z")
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### Author:  [@Turtlicious](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/u/Turtlicious)
#### Post date: [August 8, 2014, 9:35am UTC](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/can-you-make-foldable-vehicles-if-you-use-the-foldable-frames/7030/1 "2014-08-08T09:35:02Z")
If so how do you do it? I’m trying to make a foldable cart to throw into my vehicle.
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### Author:  [@Blaze](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/u/Blaze)
#### Post date: [August 8, 2014, 10:15am UTC](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/can-you-make-foldable-vehicles-if-you-use-the-foldable-frames/7030/2 "2014-08-08T10:15:14Z")
I’m fairly sure that’s the idea, but it’s not implemented yet.
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### Author:  [@kevin.granade](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/u/kevin.granade)
#### Post date: [August 8, 2014, 3:41pm UTC](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/can-you-make-foldable-vehicles-if-you-use-the-foldable-frames/7030/3 "2014-08-08T15:41:29Z")
Correct, the only foldable vehicles you can make are the ones you can build with a crafting recipe. I want to change that, not sure when I’ll be able to get to it.
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### Author:  [@Nighthawk](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/u/Nighthawk)
#### Post date: [August 8, 2014, 11:46pm UTC](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/can-you-make-foldable-vehicles-if-you-use-the-foldable-frames/7030/4 "2014-08-08T23:46:40Z")
Foldable shopping carts with jet engines. I can see it now.
In all seriousness, though, exactly how portable will these foldable vehicles be? I certainly hope you find a way to keep people from hauling semi-trucks around in their pockets.
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### Author:  [@Turtlicious](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/u/Turtlicious)
#### Post date: [August 9, 2014, 12:08am UTC](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/can-you-make-foldable-vehicles-if-you-use-the-foldable-frames/7030/5 "2014-08-09T00:08:15Z")
[quote=“Nighthawk, post:4, topic:7030”]Foldable shopping carts with jet engines. I can see it now.
In all seriousness, though, exactly how portable will these foldable vehicles be? I certainly hope you find a way to keep people from hauling semi-trucks around in their pockets.[/quote]
The volume would be the sum of the total parts (condensed if it’s a foldable frame :D) and the combined weight.
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### Author:  [@kevin.granade](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/u/kevin.granade)
#### Post date: [August 9, 2014, 3:03am UTC](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/can-you-make-foldable-vehicles-if-you-use-the-foldable-frames/7030/6 "2014-08-09T03:03:54Z")
Look at the folding bycycle for an example, the stats are based on a real folding bicycle, meaning sticking them in a backpack is quite a stretch.
They’re mostly useful for sticking in a vehicle trunk, and other ones will be similar.
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### Author:  [@saltmummy626](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/u/saltmummy626)
#### Post date: [August 9, 2014, 3:39am UTC](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/can-you-make-foldable-vehicles-if-you-use-the-foldable-frames/7030/7 "2014-08-09T03:39:15Z")
> [@Nighthawk](#):
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> Foldable shopping carts with jet engines. I can see it now.
this is cataclysm: DDA, and welcome to jackass.
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### Author:  [@ranger225500](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/u/ranger225500)
#### Post date: [August 10, 2014, 8:58am UTC](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/can-you-make-foldable-vehicles-if-you-use-the-foldable-frames/7030/8 "2014-08-10T08:58:15Z")
is being able to fold say some parts of a car a thing like if i wanted to fold out my quantum solar panel out from a cover for when it acid rains?
or say fold out a turret cars wheels to move it around or would that be to hard to code in?
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### Author:  [@KA101](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/u/KA101)
#### Post date: [August 10, 2014, 9:05am UTC](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/can-you-make-foldable-vehicles-if-you-use-the-foldable-frames/7030/9 "2014-08-10T09:05:48Z")
[quote=“ranger225500, post:8, topic:7030”]is being able to fold say some parts of a car a thing like if i wanted to fold out my quantum solar panel out from a cover for when it acid rains?
or say fold out a turret cars wheels to move it around or would that be to hard to code in?[/quote]
Right now folding doesn’t play too well with non-folding. If you or someone else were to write & PR the code for folding sections, though, we’d certainly be interested.
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### Author:  [@system](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/u/system)
#### Post date: [August 10, 2014, 9:09am UTC](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/can-you-make-foldable-vehicles-if-you-use-the-foldable-frames/7030/10 "2014-08-10T09:09:57Z")
Folding is a nice idea but how am I supposed to carry a folted flatbed?
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### Author:  [@KA101](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/u/KA101)
#### Post date: [August 10, 2014, 9:15am UTC](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/can-you-make-foldable-vehicles-if-you-use-the-foldable-frames/7030/11 "2014-08-10T09:15:04Z")
> [@trusty\_patches](#):
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> Folding is a nice idea but how am I supposed to carry a folted flatbed?
Same way you’d carry [Skidbladnir](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Skidbladnir). In your pocket.
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### Author:  [@vultures](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/u/vultures)
#### Post date: [August 10, 2014, 12:20pm UTC](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/can-you-make-foldable-vehicles-if-you-use-the-foldable-frames/7030/12 "2014-08-10T12:20:33Z")
It’s about the weight, loopy loops. 🙂
Your 5-ish kW, 2-cylinder engine is over 35 kilos of road trouble, not effectively used power – and then you have the other 35 kilos of used parts. Remember, you can (G)rab some of the vehicles and pull 'em alongside, if you just need scraps.
Here’s what I’m thinking - what if I could load my small, electric scooter ON my shopping cart? Does that mean I can load any three or so frames onto any vehicle, knowing that the contents merely fit in terms of weight/volume? Can I really saw off half a truck and load it onto a Prius? It still feels like drinking chocolate, and eating fresh water.
It kinda loses its sense after some point, I dunno…
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### Author:  [@iceball3](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/u/iceball3)
#### Post date: [December 6, 2014, 2:31am UTC](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/can-you-make-foldable-vehicles-if-you-use-the-foldable-frames/7030/13 "2014-12-06T02:31:50Z")
[quote=“vultures, post:12, topic:7030”]It’s about the weight, loopy loops. 🙂
Your 5-ish kW, 2-cylinder engine is over 35 kilos of road trouble, not effectively used power – and then you have the other 35 kilos of used parts. Remember, you can (G)rab some of the vehicles and pull 'em alongside, if you just need scraps.
Here’s what I’m thinking - what if I could load my small, electric scooter ON my shopping cart? Does that mean I can load any three or so frames onto any vehicle, knowing that the contents merely fit in terms of weight/volume? Can I really saw off half a truck and load it onto a Prius? It still feels like drinking chocolate, and eating fresh water.
It kinda loses its sense after some point, I dunno…[/quote]Trunks have a volume limit, and barring that the vehicle in question will be severely hindered by heavy weight.
Though, could folding vehicles be a way to get vehicles between Z levels, then, assuming you can carry it at all?
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### Author:  [@KA101](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/u/KA101)
#### Post date: [December 6, 2014, 2:33am UTC](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/can-you-make-foldable-vehicles-if-you-use-the-foldable-frames/7030/14 "2014-12-06T02:33:12Z")
Yeah, you can totally take your folding bicycle from one z-level to another.
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### Author:  [@iceball3](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/u/iceball3)
#### Post date: [December 6, 2014, 3:14am UTC](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/can-you-make-foldable-vehicles-if-you-use-the-foldable-frames/7030/15 "2014-12-06T03:14:19Z")
[quote=“KA101, post:14, topic:7030”]Yeah, you can totally take your folding bicycle from one z-level to another.[/quote]Hah, excellent means we can have folding minifridges, floodlights, etc and move them between levels with no problem!
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### Author:  [@Blaze](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/u/Blaze)
#### Post date: [December 6, 2014, 3:21am UTC](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/can-you-make-foldable-vehicles-if-you-use-the-foldable-frames/7030/16 "2014-12-06T03:21:43Z")
Minifridges and floodlights don’t fold.
If even a single part isn’t foldable, the whole vehicle isn’t.
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### Author:  [@iceball3](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/u/iceball3)
#### Post date: [December 6, 2014, 3:28am UTC](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/can-you-make-foldable-vehicles-if-you-use-the-foldable-frames/7030/17 "2014-12-06T03:28:08Z")
Oh, that’s a shame.
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### Author:  [@Arek\_PL](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/u/Arek_PL)
#### Post date: [December 6, 2014, 3:09pm UTC](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/can-you-make-foldable-vehicles-if-you-use-the-foldable-frames/7030/18 "2014-12-06T15:09:32Z")
shooping cart basket is unfoldable too only wire basket
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### Author:  [@ramesesniblet](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/u/ramesesniblet)
#### Post date: [December 6, 2014, 4:31pm UTC](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/can-you-make-foldable-vehicles-if-you-use-the-foldable-frames/7030/19 "2014-12-06T16:31:28Z")
[quote=“iceball3, post:13, topic:7030”][quote=“vultures, post:12, topic:7030”]It’s about the weight, loopy loops. 🙂
Your 5-ish kW, 2-cylinder engine is over 35 kilos of road trouble, not effectively used power – and then you have the other 35 kilos of used parts. Remember, you can (G)rab some of the vehicles and pull 'em alongside, if you just need scraps.
Here’s what I’m thinking - what if I could load my small, electric scooter ON my shopping cart? Does that mean I can load any three or so frames onto any vehicle, knowing that the contents merely fit in terms of weight/volume? Can I really saw off half a truck and load it onto a Prius? It still feels like drinking chocolate, and eating fresh water.
It kinda loses its sense after some point, I dunno…[/quote]Trunks have a volume limit, and barring that the vehicle in question will be severely hindered by heavy weight.
Though, could folding vehicles be a way to get vehicles between Z levels, then, assuming you can carry it at all?[/quote]
Why not add a bike rack vehicle part? You examine it, it asks if you want to store the nearby vehicle. The vehicle disappears into the rack and adds the weight onto the other vehicle, you can give it a maximum storage based on the power of the big vehicle’s engine or something. Would be cool.
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### Author:  [@Blaze](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/u/Blaze)
#### Post date: [December 6, 2014, 6:05pm UTC](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/can-you-make-foldable-vehicles-if-you-use-the-foldable-frames/7030/20 "2014-12-06T18:05:06Z")
Cargo carriers have 1,000 volume; that’s enough for most vehicles. That’s 100 folding frames w/o parts.
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