Call for: basements and caves

Random_dragon · 2017-03-12T23:42:36.000Z

Coolthulhu:

The most useful basement kinds would be the normal, un-themed types, just with some specific architecture.

So bedroom and computer with [Insert Stereotypical Basement-Dweller Game Here] on it?

StopSignal · 2017-03-13T04:30:15.000Z

If possible, avoid weapons and overpowered stuff please. There are those basements already, and they are quite frequent. This would be to make this op basements more rare and therefore exciting!

And if possible make some variations. I’d love to see the basement with the dead body and sandbags if i didn’t see it every time! I think a nice “normal” version of it would be awesome.

_k1 · 2017-03-13T05:12:33.000Z

People sometimes grow mushroom on sawdust bed in basement. It is not illegal hallucigenic mushroom or anything extraordinary, but just common edible one.

Coolthulhu · 2017-03-13T05:17:48.000Z

StopSignal:

I think a nice “normal” version of it would be awesome.

That would be pretty great: if every “special” basement also existed in the regular variant.

Grandpuh_Ty · 2017-03-13T14:14:12.000Z

No kiddin’ huh? Pfft okay, you want basements? You got basements.

secretfire · 2017-03-31T21:03:09.000Z

To be honest, everytime I think to myself “making JSON buildings would be fun!” I look at how it works and my mind just fuzzes over. I think its because I’ve only EVER played this game in tileset, all I see when I look at it is a garbled mess that looks nothing like a room or a building to me. I’ve told myself several times I’ll play the game in pure ASCII so I could make JSON buildings, but I’ve never actually DONE it.

pisskop · 2017-04-01T13:04:39.000Z

try it sometime.

give ascii a try. start in the city and use your x and V buttons.

its hard at first, but youll learn it soon just like you learned to id tileset.

they arent just symbols, theyre bookcases, desk, counters, chairs, cabinets. you just have to learn them

Random_dragon · 2017-04-01T15:33:02.000Z

secretfire:

To be honest, everytime I think to myself “making JSON buildings would be fun!” I look at how it works and my mind just fuzzes over. I think its because I’ve only EVER played this game in tileset, all I see when I look at it is a garbled mess that looks nothing like a room or a building to me. I’ve told myself several times I’ll play the game in pure ASCII so I could make JSON buildings, but I’ve never actually DONE it.

You know what’s funny?

I’m entirely used to playing in tiles mode and I still got the hang of map editing. You mostly just have to be methodical and eyeball the map a few times, and if you’re thoroughly familiar with how it looks in tile format it should just be a matter of practice. Like a lot of CDDA modding really, just take your time and practice.

Once you get the hang of it, instead enjoy constantly messing up coordinates for loot placement. <3

pisskop · 2017-04-01T16:30:03.000Z

i map them nowadays.

i use multiple symbols if i must

Noctifer · 2017-04-01T19:52:19.000Z

I used a overmap generator I downloaded somewhere that allowed you to create buildings with UI and then it would generate the .json file. That is how I created the buildings for Cata++ but I lost that tool and forgot where I had downloaded it…

Found it! It was in the mods and tools section of the forums.

Noctifer · 2017-04-01T20:56:34.000Z

Something like this for the basement?

{
“method”: “json”,
“object”: {
“add”: [
{
“item”: “atomic_lamp”,
“repeat”: 1,
“x”: 11,
“y”: 21
}
],
“furniture”: {
"#": “f_table”,
"+": “f_null”,
".": “f_null”,
"<": “f_null”,
“H”: “f_armchair”,
“r”: “f_rack”,
"{": “f_bookcase”,
"|": “f_null”
},
“place_items”: [
{
“chance”: 25,
“item”: “mansion_books”,
“x”: 20,
“y”: [
3,
20
]
},
{
“chance”: 25,
“item”: “mansion_books”,
“x”: 17,
“y”: [
3,
20
]
},
{
“chance”: 25,
“item”: “mansion_books”,
“x”: 14,
“y”: [
3,
17
]
},
{
“chance”: 25,
“item”: “mansion_books”,
“x”: 9,
“y”: [
3,
17
]
},
{
“chance”: 25,
“item”: “mansion_books”,
“x”: 6,
“y”: [
3,
20
]
},
{
“chance”: 25,
“item”: “mansion_books”,
“x”: 3,
“y”: [
3,
20
]
},
{
“chance”: 25,
“item”: “antique”,
“x”: [
15,
22
],
“y”: 22
},
{
“chance”: 25,
“item”: “antique”,
“x”: [
1,
8
],
“y”: 22
}
],
“rows”: [
"||||||||||||||||||||||||",
"|…|<<|…|",
"|…|…|…|",
"|…{…{…{|++|{…{…{…|",
"|…{…{…{…{…{…{…|",
"|…{…{…{…{…{…{…|",
"|…{…{…{…{…{…{…|",
"|…{…{…{…{…{…{…|",
"|…{…{…{…{…{…{…|",
"|…{…{…{…{…{…{…|",
"|…{…{…{…{…{…{…|",
"|…{…{…{…{…{…{…|",
"|…{…{…{…{…{…{…|",
"|…{…{…{…{…{…{…|",
"|…{…{…{…{…{…{…|",
"|…{…{…{…{…{…{…|",
"|…{…{…{…{…{…{…|",
"|…{…{…{…{…{…{…|",
"|…{…{…{…{…|",
"|…{…{…{…{…|",
"|…{…{…H##H…{…{…|",
"|…H##H…|",
"|rrrrrrrr…rrrrrrrr|",
"||||||||||||||||||||||||"
],
“terrain”: {
"#": “t_floor”,
"+": “t_door_locked_interior”,
".": “t_floor”,
"<": “t_stairs_up”,
“H”: “t_floor”,
“r”: “t_floor”,
"{": “t_floor”,
"|": “t_wall”
}
},
“om_terrain”: “basement_rich_collector”,
“type”: “mapgen”,
“weight”: 250
}

Random_dragon · 2017-04-01T21:34:22.000Z

Holy shit. Does everything you make end up being OP? 3:

Lazy_lizard · 2017-04-01T23:16:40.000Z

“It belongs in a museum!”

StopSignal · 2017-04-02T00:00:22.000Z

“Noctifer’s incredibly loot bloated Mansion Basement Emcampments™”
(?

Though, to be honest, we need indeed more.
Maybe make a version with some stuff broken and no books? Or a burnt one with ashes all over the place? That could be nice! Nice work, really.

Noctifer · 2017-04-02T02:05:58.000Z

I guess I went over board, Guess I will change the books to be more novels?

Jinxed44 · 2017-04-04T16:52:53.000Z

Not quite to the point of coding yet, but just wanted to shout out to a community working hard to make basements more mundane/lived in!
Impressive dedication.

Profugo_Barbatus · 2017-04-13T20:23:15.000Z

The lack of unfinished basements/in-progress basements really tends to surprise me. You’d expect to see a lot of people renovating them (Almost half of everyone I know in real life is in an eternal state of renovating the basement), and it’d be a good source of early weapons and tools. Stuff like hammers, saws, drills. Valuable late and early game, for equipment early on and batteries/parts late game, without going full crazy with laser rifle level loot.

Inconspicuous · 2017-04-13T22:16:23.000Z

What about flooded basements, or basements full of junk?

Coolthulhu · 2017-04-13T22:29:32.000Z

Flooded won’t work well due to lack of proper liquid mechanics. Junk ones already exist.

pisskop · 2017-04-13T22:32:10.000Z

basements can house some of the more eccentric items CDDA has.

Like goldfish bowls, clown shoes, furry suits, maid outfits, BDSM outfits, Touring suits, etc.

Basements and attics are storage spaces as much as minibars and mancave and extended family rooms. They can also be bedrooms, libraries, etc.

I recommend we make a basement for some of these.