# \>,\< Buttons missing
**URL:** https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/buttons-missing/27921
**Category:** The Bunker
**Created:** [June 6, 2022, 11:13am UTC](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/buttons-missing/27921 "2022-06-06T11:13:24Z")
**Posts on this page:** 4
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### Author:  [@Plowski](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/u/Plowski)
#### Post date: [June 6, 2022, 11:13am UTC](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/buttons-missing/27921/1 "2022-06-06T11:13:24Z")
How do i navigate the menus without these (\> \<) keys?
My keyboard is a german one (qwertz).
Right to the M key are ,(; ) and .(: ) no \> or \<.
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### Author:  [@ItzStone](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/u/ItzStone)
#### Post date: [June 6, 2022, 12:22pm UTC](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/buttons-missing/27921/2 "2022-06-06T12:22:55Z")
I’m pretty sure the ‘\<’ ‘\>’ keys are only used in the mod selection screen during world creation, most uses of the keys were switched to tab and shift + tab. also checked online and the only German layout I seen put the \<\> keys next to the shift key.
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### Author:  [@PALU](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/u/PALU)
#### Post date: [June 6, 2022, 12:29pm UTC](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/buttons-missing/27921/3 "2022-06-06T12:29:53Z")
The left shift key, I would expect.
Otherwise you should be able to press “?” to get to the key binding menu where you should be able to bind the keys to something else (like ö and ä, since there are’t bound to anything in the game).
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### Author:  [@Chronia](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/u/Chronia)
#### Post date: [June 6, 2022, 11:53pm UTC](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/buttons-missing/27921/4 "2022-06-06T23:53:59Z")
Those keys also move down / up stairs by default. They see a lot of use on keyboards that don’t have a 10 key pad or dedicated pageup / pagedown set (e.g. smaller laptops)