# Butchering in 0.E+

**URL:** <https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/butchering-in-0-e/24288>\
**Category:** The Bunker\
**Created:** [July 29, 2020, 3:37am UTC](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/butchering-in-0-e/24288 "2020-07-29T03:37:37Z")\
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**Author:** ![Valase](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/discourse.cataclysmdda.org/valase/32/6972_2.png) [@Valase](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/u/Valase)\
**Post date:** [August 2, 2020, 10:42pm UTC](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/butchering-in-0-e/24288/35 "2020-08-02T22:42:12Z")

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> [@Fload](#):
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> What do you mean? [This](https://github.com/CleverRaven/Cataclysm-DDA/pull/42372) was merged only recently.

I know, that’s the exact same link I’ve provided in the [first answer to this topic](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/butchering-in-0-e/24288/2).  
I especially stated in my most recent answer that it preexisted and was just moved to JSON, which was basically a quote from the very pull request you (and I) have linked.  
Here’s the line it has replaced:

> <https://github.com/CleverRaven/Cataclysm-DDA/pull/42372/files#diff-d13ed72411aea98b2ed21e2cb17387ebL632>
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> \#### Summary
> \`\`\`SUMMARY: Features "update butchery to use requirements"\`\`\`
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> \#### Purpose of change
> Moving data from hardcode into json, and also making the messaging clearer when tools are missing.
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> \#### Describe the solution
> use a \`requirement\` for various parts of butchery:
> field dress, quarter, skin, dismember: \`field\_dress\`
> dissect: \`dissect\_large\`, \`dissect\_small\`
> full: \`full\_butchery\_large\`, \`butchery\_small\`
> quick: \`butchery\_large\`, \`butchery\_small\`
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> Additionally, uses the same 6 tile range as crafting does.
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> \#### Describe alternatives you've considered
> Well we could keep butchery tools hardcoded i guess
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> \#### Testing
> spawned in various creates with and without tools.
> !\[image\](https://user-images.githubusercontent.com/30208401/88153244-25be7c00-cbd3-11ea-96a6-30dae11f0bae.png)
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> \#### Additional context
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> Inspired by 4c9000b257fccab6ab6b6b93b4767ad0764a5c8c

> To perform a full butchery on a corpse this big, you need a table nearby or something else with a flat surface. A leather tarp spread out on the ground could suffice.

> [@Fload](#):
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> I don’t recall needing a large surface for dissection until recently.

I (and most above my last post) are talking about butchering for meat. Not dissection. While I still agree ([and even stated so](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/butchering-in-0-e/24288/7) earlier) that it should be possible to butcher a corpse without a surface but with other drawbacks, I - as written by my last post - also get the impression that most here think that this change happend recently and oppose this “new change”.  
Dissection, however, might be new to require a surface, but that’s already [discussed in an other topic](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/dissecting-in-0-e/24327) and is not what most of this discussion seems about (as you don’t get meat from dissection).

> [@Fload](#):
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> I’m also pretty sure a tourist table was enough to butcher a moose.

That’s the part I’ve also adressed with…:

> [@Valase](#):
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> […] and split up into more precise sections […]

…as it only checked for a table, but not the size of the carcass (and if it can fit).  
But anything bigger than (or equal to) creature\_size::medium always\* required a table to be butchered and was never\* able to be butchered on the ground for a full butchery.  
\*: Well, since the change in the butchering system a few… months(?) back.

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