# Butchering a moose produces amounts that differ by a lot from the respective mass in large\_mamal\_leather

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**Category:** The Garage\
**Created:** [February 24, 2021, 12:08pm UTC](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/butchering-a-moose-produces-amounts-that-differ-by-a-lot-from-the-respective-mass-in-large-mamal-leather/25980 "2021-02-24T12:08:48Z")\
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**Author:** ![ThinkSome](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/278dde/32.png) [@ThinkSome](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/u/ThinkSome)\
**Post date:** [February 24, 2021, 12:08pm UTC](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/butchering-a-moose-produces-amounts-that-differ-by-a-lot-from-the-respective-mass-in-large-mamal-leather/25980/1 "2021-02-24T12:08:48Z")

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The corpse is undamaged and I have level 5 survival. All the yields are ~40% lower than the mass ratios

![moose_butcher](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/uploads/cataclysmdda/original/2X/7/78d39182a5e5b9041b78420f5a6ae9ec7b838f70.png)

If I repeat this at survival 7, all the yields are roughly 20% lower.

I understand that the survival skill should help with butchery, but are such large differences intended? Looking into code, there is  
`return 0.5 * skill_level / 10 + 0.3 * ( factor + 50 ) / 100 + 0.2 * p->dex_cur / 20;`

Does this mean that one can obtain more than the designated mass if your survival/dex are high enough? Survival 13 would already make this \>1 for me.

Anyway, there is also the problem that field dressing/skinning reduces corpse weight and thus also the rest of the yields.

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**Author:** ![KorGgenT](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/discourse.cataclysmdda.org/korggent/32/12330_2.png) [@KorGgenT](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/u/KorGgenT)\
**Post date:** [February 24, 2021, 4:30pm UTC](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/butchering-a-moose-produces-amounts-that-differ-by-a-lot-from-the-respective-mass-in-large-mamal-leather/25980/2 "2021-02-24T16:30:10Z")

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intended. that 40% is the liquid mass that falls to the floor, unrecoverable even as butchery refuse.

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**Author:** ![ThinkSome](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/278dde/32.png) [@ThinkSome](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/u/ThinkSome)\
**Post date:** [February 24, 2021, 5:51pm UTC](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/butchering-a-moose-produces-amounts-that-differ-by-a-lot-from-the-respective-mass-in-large-mamal-leather/25980/3 "2021-02-24T17:51:57Z")

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“If I repeat this at survival 7, all the yields are roughly 20% lower.”

Speaking of liquid mass, I wonder, why am I not prompted where to pour the blood?

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**Author:** ![FunkleBlaze](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/a698b9/32.png) [@FunkleBlaze](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/u/FunkleBlaze)\
**Post date:** [February 24, 2021, 6:53pm UTC](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/butchering-a-moose-produces-amounts-that-differ-by-a-lot-from-the-respective-mass-in-large-mamal-leather/25980/4 "2021-02-24T18:53:01Z")

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You can pour the blood through: butchering → bleed the corpse (well, before butchering actually, it’s under ‘l’ letter in butchering menu).