# Bows, Crossbows and Their Balance

**URL:** <https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/bows-crossbows-and-their-balance/17067>\
**Category:** The Drawing Board\
**Created:** [October 19, 2018, 3:37am UTC](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/bows-crossbows-and-their-balance/17067 "2018-10-19T03:37:56Z")\
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**Author:** ![Tamior](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/41988e/32.png) [@Tamior](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/u/Tamior)\
**Post date:** [May 26, 2019, 7:30am UTC](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/bows-crossbows-and-their-balance/17067/218 "2019-05-26T07:30:14Z")

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I agree. My point is, it does not involve ANY real sacrifices even without taking any CBM’s or mutations into account:  
18 str  
4 dex  
8 int  
4 per

Please tell me, people who think that 18 str is somehow “rare and hard to play”, what exactly this character has “sacrificed” (in terms of actual gameplay, not just “on the paper”)?

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