# Bows, Crossbows and Their Balance

**URL:** <https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/bows-crossbows-and-their-balance/17067>\
**Category:** The Drawing Board\
**Created:** [October 19, 2018, 3:37am UTC](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/bows-crossbows-and-their-balance/17067 "2018-10-19T03:37:56Z")\
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**Post date:** [May 26, 2019, 7:24am UTC](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/bows-crossbows-and-their-balance/17067/216 "2019-05-26T07:24:59Z")

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> [@crazykiddeath](#):
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> Are you taking into account mutations and CBMs?

It’s largely irreverent. 18 strength is a viable starting value without sacrificing anything important.

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