Bodily Functions - Never?

[Coolthulhu]

Lets just NOT take the Dwarf Fortress route and make the player an infinite fire hose of vomit though.

DF actually limits the amount of vomit in each creature - after vomiting, further nausea will only cause retching.

DDA is a bit more strict: survivor will only vomit food and water, never just plain stomach acid.

[ShinQuickMan]

[quote=“voskhod, post:4, topic:10105”]Really though Kevin the least that can be done is add a field effect for vomit that causes the player nausea whenever they’re near it, it makes no sense how a player can vomit and nothing happens beyond the food in your stomach being cancelled out. There should maybe be a more visual indication of the player emptying the contents of their stomach?

Lets just NOT take the Dwarf Fortress route and make the player an infinite fire hose of vomit though.[/quote]

I don’t know. The PC doesn’t react similarly at the sight of rotten food or corpses, either. Would be really annoying if you can’t reliably eat something between bashing some zombie skulls, or getting sick cause you found weeks old milk while raiding a fridge.

[Random_dragon]

Would make a sewage cannon even more Fun though. But yeah, is otherwise a bit pointless.

[Pthalocy]

I’d like a visual indicator to go with the “you throw up heavily!” mesage, but that’s about it. It’d amount to needing a mop to remove the ~ from the tile, or just going outside your shelter if you’re lazy but still like a clean fort at worst. As handy as the text log is, I still tend to miss some messages like this when spammed by a multitude of other similarly coloured messages XD

[Random_dragon]

Ah right. Giving puke a field effect would be funny as well.

[BeerBeer]

What if toilet needs were special cases only? Like, you’d get afflicted with diarrhea. And only THEN would you be required to relieve yourself quickly or face the consequences, such as:

• Smelly pants (hefty negative morale, increased scentprint for scent-tracking creatures)
• Dirty legwear and footwear (require washing, skin layer only)
• Further increased chance of additional infections if the poo problem (pooblem?) isn’t dealt with.

[Pthalocy]

You mean add dysentery as a disease?

…I mostly wanted to post because “pooblem” sent me into a giggle fit. I am truly a five year old.

[kevin.granade]

Vomit != "Poop and related bodily functions"
Obviously, vomiting is already in the game, if someone feels like coding up an item or field to represent it, feel free.

[Random_dragon]

Don’t tempt me. >w>

[i2amroy]

[quote=“BeerBeer, post:13, topic:10105”]What if toilet needs were special cases only? Like, you’d get afflicted with diarrhea. And only THEN would you be required to relieve yourself quickly or face the consequences, such as:

• Smelly pants (hefty negative morale, increased scentprint for scent-tracking creatures)
• Dirty legwear and footwear (require washing, skin layer only)
• Further increased chance of additional infections if the poo problem (pooblem?) isn’t dealt with.[/quote]
  Yeaaaaaaahhhh… no.

[BeerBeer]

[quote=“i2amroy, post:17, topic:10105”][/quote]
Yeaaaaaaahhhh… no.
[/quote]
…And then on the other end of the spectrum, one would have constipation, for not eating enough fibers… Oh… wait… you said ‘no’.
W… Would you at least agree to introducing bladder stones? The character would have the occasional need to pee, but it’d be painful as hell, so he’d have to take Tramadol before peeing…
Why are you looking at me like that?

[Random_dragon]

I’d say keep it at DF levels. XP

[StopSignal]

Hahaha this is the best d:

[renton55555]

There would be no micromanagement or grossness in simply having a morale effect for being in reasonable proximity to a toilet or latrine pit. Bodily functions could be a part of the game without actually being depicted or acted directly on. It would just be a small incentive to live in more stable, civilized surroundings.

[Muaddib]

I don’t know about you but I wanna be as far away from toilets as possible.

[Kadian]

I’m kinda unsure a about toilet n stuff, but I’d definitely like to see cleaning yourself - the game made a first step in this direction with cutting your hair/beard, now we’d need to be able to use soap with water in order to wash ourself. A bucket of Water would technically be enough to clean yourself, and I’d love to see actual working showers - either makeshift one, with a barrel of rainwater, or one in a vehicle - a good, long shower could however cost up to a tank of water, depending on the shower, the pressure and so on. Oh, and power obviously, for heating said water.
I believe shower/washing yourself was talked about before as well, and it was rejected due to the possible problems with morale, as a shower would need to give you a rather high/long lasting morale boost or it would be useless…still, a mod like this would be lovely. . . but I have the feeling this would have to be hardcoded somehow…?

[Azrad]

Well, instead of looking at long-term morale boosts, why not health instead? Not as high as vitamins, perhaps, but a bath could help in cleaning off all the germs you get from exerting yourself and wiping off the monster chunks in your body. Something like that.

[Random_dragon]

Isn’t that also the major hidden reason for washing in DF? Not just for morale and to mitigate forgotten beast contaminants, but also to reduce the chance of getting infected when being treated for injury.

[i2amroy]

Isn’t that also the major hidden reason for washing in DF? Not just for morale and to mitigate forgotten beast contaminants, but also to reduce the chance of getting infected when being treated for injury.

It is, and showers and washing isn’t something that I’m opposed to, though I’d see it as more of a buff then a penalty. Rather than being forced to wash every X amount of time or suffer a penalty to future wound infections (though of course we’d need actual wounds to get infected first), treat it as “you can take a shower for a buff to your infection resistance and morale for X amount of time”. Then it doesn’t force the player to use them by penalizing them if they don’t, though it’s a nice thing for the player to do when they finally get the resources or should they choose to do so.

[Random_dragon]

Maybe, though technically the health stat is already the same situation in practice. You will inevitably catch a cold if you don’t take vitamins regularly, unless you wear a gas mask.