# Bloodthirsty Trait
**URL:** https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/bloodthirsty-trait/9830
**Category:** The Drawing Board
**Created:** [June 17, 2015, 7:10pm UTC](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/bloodthirsty-trait/9830 "2015-06-17T19:10:25Z")
**Posts on this page:** 12
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### Author:  [@AlmostHuman](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/u/AlmostHuman)
#### Post date: [June 17, 2015, 7:10pm UTC](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/bloodthirsty-trait/9830/1 "2015-06-17T19:10:25Z")
So I have been reading up on the traits and I notice that their was not an opposing trait for pacifist. Anyways I think it would be cool if a new Bloodthirsty trait could have it where you enjoy fighting.
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### Author:  [@Azrad](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/u/Azrad)
#### Post date: [June 17, 2015, 7:40pm UTC](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/bloodthirsty-trait/9830/2 "2015-06-17T19:40:48Z")
Would be nice to have. Morale boost from fighting, and a morale drop sometimes when there’s nothing to kill.
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### Author:  [@AlmostHuman](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/u/AlmostHuman)
#### Post date: [December 8, 2018, 6:56pm UTC](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/bloodthirsty-trait/9830/3 "2018-12-08T18:56:04Z")
Glad someone agrees. I wonder how difficult it’d be to add.
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### Author:  [@Valiant](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/u/Valiant)
#### Post date: [December 8, 2018, 7:26pm UTC](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/bloodthirsty-trait/9830/4 "2018-12-08T19:26:36Z")
Not very difficult, but it’d very good if you could describe in details what this trait should do.
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### Author:  [@AlmostHuman](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/u/AlmostHuman)
#### Post date: [December 8, 2018, 7:38pm UTC](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/bloodthirsty-trait/9830/5 "2018-12-08T19:38:54Z")
Well, you know how you get negative morale when you kill kids? This trait could make it where you get a positive morale anytime you kill… anything… And maybe make it where you get negative morale when you haven’t killed something in a while.
It seems kind of powerful, so I think it costing three points would be a good idea.
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### Author:  [@Malkeus](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/u/Malkeus)
#### Post date: [December 8, 2018, 8:14pm UTC](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/bloodthirsty-trait/9830/6 "2018-12-08T20:14:47Z")
The basic infrastructure for this is present in the Pyromaniac trait, I don’t know how hard it would be to split off into a generic function that serves multiple traits, but that’s where I’d start hacking.
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### Author:  [@TheZoneWizard](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/u/TheZoneWizard)
#### Post date: [December 9, 2018, 3:47am UTC](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/bloodthirsty-trait/9830/7 "2018-12-09T03:47:02Z")
Could give a sprinkle of Trigger Happy too. When euphoric and the toon is holding an automatic fire weapon. This weapon may fire without player consent.
In short. Your toon gets over happy from killing and turns a little loopy. Sporadically firing even when nothing is around.
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### Author:  [@Wayticus](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/u/Wayticus)
#### Post date: [December 9, 2018, 4:08am UTC](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/bloodthirsty-trait/9830/8 "2018-12-09T04:08:44Z")
It should also have a cap on how much moral boost you get from doing so, like the pyro trait does, and other mood boost methods, otherwise it would be way to over powered.
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### Author:  [@TheZoneWizard](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/u/TheZoneWizard)
#### Post date: [December 9, 2018, 4:12am UTC](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/bloodthirsty-trait/9830/9 "2018-12-09T04:12:46Z")
Valid point. Wouldn’t wanna end up perma psycho pissing through bullets lol
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### Author:  [@redxlaser15](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/u/redxlaser15)
#### Post date: [December 9, 2018, 4:22am UTC](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/bloodthirsty-trait/9830/10 "2018-12-09T04:22:02Z")
This sound like a wonderful idea! Adrenaline should be added to it also, in my opinion. You ARE killing a bunch of stuff after all.
But perhaps there will be less of a benefit for killing little bunnies and such though. It isn’t as entertaining as punching a hulk to death.
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### Author:  [@TheZoneWizard](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/u/TheZoneWizard)
#### Post date: [December 9, 2018, 4:31am UTC](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/bloodthirsty-trait/9830/11 "2018-12-09T04:31:59Z")
That reminds me of anti-psychotic medicine. While not to be confused with mitigation of symptoms and unchecked kill frenzy morale buffs/debuffs.
Adrenaline is a good idea to add in. I wonder if the character would just end up going insane and need to knock back some meds to chill?
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### Author:  [@Trigon](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/u/Trigon)
#### Post date: [December 9, 2018, 9:34am UTC](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/bloodthirsty-trait/9830/12 "2018-12-09T09:34:01Z")
Bloodthirsty actually could work. Though I think we have an apex predator mutation that works like reverse pacifist in that you gain combat skills faster.