Bloodsucker

Datanazush · 2014-06-11T08:57:13.000Z

Ooh ooh. How about the “bloodsucker” makes tiles flicker, like the hallucination effect that Schizophrenics have. That way you have to be paying at least a modicum of attention to notice where it is when it goes invisible.

Arek_PL · 2014-06-11T13:31:47.000Z

i like idea of Fniff

FunsizeNinja123 · 2014-06-11T14:15:12.000Z

I like Dat’s idea.

Datanazush · 2014-06-11T14:30:11.000Z

Who the fuck is Dan?

That said, I don’t really like the idea of mimics in roguelikes. I don’t like the idea of mimics at all unless it’s done particularly well. Vigilance is all well and good, but obsessively [V]isual-chec[k]ing every enemy is just going to be tedious. Ideally, if a mimic is done well, there will be some obvious form of it telegraphing, the ones in Dark Souls occasionally crack open their mouths for a moment and visually look different from what they’re pretending to be, for example.

A grab is an alright concept of an attack for an enemy, so long as there is a somewhat reliable way for you to break the grab, whether it be hitting them hard enough to knock them off you, or suddenly diving away from them. The enemy can be powerful, but it has to be fair, there needs to be a reliable way for you to beat them.

FunsizeNinja123 · 2014-06-11T14:46:17.000Z

Datanazush:

Who the fuck is Dan?

:l

FunsizeNinja123:

I like Dat’s idea.

Datanazush · 2014-06-11T14:51:30.000Z

My name is DATAN. Feth’s sake man, I thought you knew Fniff by first name or something at first.

Pandupaz · 2014-06-11T14:59:54.000Z

the flickering effect is a good idea could be used when entering horribly irradiated or supernatural places

Datanazush · 2014-06-11T15:04:39.000Z

The general consensus seems to be that Cataclysm needs more flickering. If the game doesn’t end up looking like an improperly stored video from 1910, I don’t want to be a part of it.

StopSignal · 2014-06-11T15:08:50.000Z

Well, it could depend on your perception, and it could be mixed with Dat’s idea too. If at this we add that it should attack like a dog does, i mean, attacking and retreating, i think you would stand a good chance at them.

They would also make the yellow ? things, of noise.

Pandupaz · 2014-06-11T15:10:04.000Z

Datanazush:

The general consensus seems to be that Cataclysm needs more flickering. If the game doesn’t end up looking like an improperly stored video from 1910, I don’t want to be a part of it.

it should also be black and white to enhance the bleakness and the general sense of nihilism. those red J’s and cyan Z’s ruin my immersion. i want cataclysm artsy.

Murphy · 2014-06-11T16:01:24.000Z

Why not just make it completely invisible and reappearing occasionally for 2-3 turns when you pass your perception check? As a bonus, when visible, its color should match the terrain it’s on.

Arek_PL · 2014-06-11T17:47:45.000Z

we got bionic named alarm system

“A motion-detecting alarm system will notice almost all movement within a fifteen-foot radius, and will silently alert you. This is very useful during sleep, or if you suspect a cloaked pursuer.”

maybe this bionic will tell player where is him if he is in rage of this bionic

FunsizeNinja123 · 2014-06-11T18:16:16.000Z

Heh… Arek is right…

Datanazush · 2014-06-11T18:18:30.000Z

OH MY GOD. A not sleeping benefit to the alarm system? Now we DEFINITELY need an invisible/concealed enemy of some kind.

KA101 · 2014-06-12T00:12:28.000Z

Murphy:

Why not just make it completely invisible and reappearing occasionally for 2-3 turns when you pass your perception check? As a bonus, when visible, its color should match the terrain it’s on.

This seems interesting. Color-match might be tedious but should be doable.

StopSignal · 2014-06-12T00:21:30.000Z

KA101:

[quote=“Murphy, post:17, topic:6451”]Why not just make it completely invisible and reappearing occasionally for 2-3 turns when you pass your perception check? As a bonus, when visible, its color should match the terrain it’s on.

This seems interesting. Color-match might be tedious but should be doable.[/quote]

And it could give the Alarm System a lot more sense. And there should be a mutation that should let you see it. The one that let’s you see heat, for example.

I think this is becoming a good idea.

FunsizeNinja123 · 2014-06-12T01:01:59.000Z

YAY NEW MONSTERS

But where will it spawn? A variant of the cave or a random spawn?

Murphy · 2014-06-12T01:37:53.000Z

Subways could use more inhabitants. Swamps and caves sound like obvious places for them as well. Though they should be visible while wading through water, for obvious means.

FunsizeNinja123 · 2014-06-12T03:04:54.000Z

Yeah, subways could use more monsters. I never see any CHUDs down there.

StopSignal · 2014-06-12T15:25:28.000Z

I think it’s good gameplay wise. So the only thing is adding them. The easy part is the monster, but what with the invisibility?