# Bibles, Books of Mormons, Torahs, Menorrahs, Branch Davidian's book of Christ

**URL:** <https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/bibles-books-of-mormons-torahs-menorrahs-branch-davidians-book-of-christ/5015>\
**Category:** The Drawing Board\
**Created:** [February 8, 2014, 10:06pm UTC](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/bibles-books-of-mormons-torahs-menorrahs-branch-davidians-book-of-christ/5015 "2014-02-08T22:06:19Z")\
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**Author:** ![TheGrifter](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/278dde/32.png) [@TheGrifter](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/u/TheGrifter)\
**Post date:** [February 8, 2014, 10:06pm UTC](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/bibles-books-of-mormons-torahs-menorrahs-branch-davidians-book-of-christ/5015/1 "2014-02-08T22:06:19Z")

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We’ve got the churchs, functional as they should be, but where are the books by these religious folks?!

Where’s the actual bible?!

Where’s yer Torahs, ye anti-semites?! WHERE’S YOUR HOLY BOOK OF MORMON, TRANSLATED IN 18XX BY JOSEPH SMITH USING THE URIM & THURRIM?! Calm down, grifter, yer reaching Time Cube levels of crazy here…

Let me start again…

Where are your actual religious texts in the game? We’ve got Time magazine, but not even a Watchtower pamphlet.

Furthermore, why is there only one non-denominational church, one without a book even?

Why aren’t there synagogues, demagogues, mosques, compounds, even?

Where’s the People’s Fortified Temple of Jones, with boarded up windows and ample meat inside, with a half full punch bowl you really shouldn’t drink out of?

Where’s the Compound of Koresh, half burnt out, corpses of ATF, and cultist alike? Plenty of guns, but lots of undead. Like a religious FEMA camp.

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**Author:** ![Rivet](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/discourse.cataclysmdda.org/rivet/32/11_2.png) [@Rivet](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/u/Rivet)\
**Post date:** [February 8, 2014, 10:42pm UTC](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/bibles-books-of-mormons-torahs-menorrahs-branch-davidians-book-of-christ/5015/2 "2014-02-08T22:42:39Z")

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There was actually a big discussion some time ago about adding such books to the game.

The general consensus was that folks didn’t want to include them due to the risk of crossing people’s religious leanings. We do have churches in-game already, though, so the lack of those sort of texts seems rather odd.

I suppose we could revive the discussion in this thread and see what folks think of the idea.

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**Author:** ![DG123](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/54ee81/32.png) [@DG123](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/u/DG123)\
**Post date:** [February 8, 2014, 10:44pm UTC](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/bibles-books-of-mormons-torahs-menorrahs-branch-davidians-book-of-christ/5015/3 "2014-02-08T22:44:39Z")

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Something tells me they will become fuel for campfires and people will get butthurt about it.

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**Author:** ![Rivet](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/discourse.cataclysmdda.org/rivet/32/11_2.png) [@Rivet](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/u/Rivet)\
**Post date:** [February 8, 2014, 10:51pm UTC](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/bibles-books-of-mormons-torahs-menorrahs-branch-davidians-book-of-christ/5015/4 "2014-02-08T22:51:10Z")

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> [@DG123](#):
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> Something tells me they will become fuel for campfires and people will get butthurt about it.

This was a big part of the argument against it.

I have to say though, if we use our brains and actually think about this angle for a moment:

Folks who burn them don’t have any right to complain. What, were they checking to see if it’s possible just so that they can complain that it is? Cannibalism is also possible in-game, but that doesn’t mean you have to engage in it, either.

And if they get butthurt over somebody else (whom they’ve never even met, nor ever will) burning a fictional copy of a holy text in their own private copy of a video game, they have no leg to stand on. That’d be like starting a flame-war with somebody on here because their character they play as at home is a cannibal.

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**Author:** ![John\_Candlebury](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/discourse.cataclysmdda.org/john_candlebury/32/6437_2.png) [@John\_Candlebury](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/u/John_Candlebury)\
**Post date:** [February 8, 2014, 10:55pm UTC](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/bibles-books-of-mormons-torahs-menorrahs-branch-davidians-book-of-christ/5015/5 "2014-02-08T22:55:39Z")

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We need those scientology books ingame. You know the soap operas about the Tethans and Xemu and all that.

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**Author:** ![kevin.granade](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/discourse.cataclysmdda.org/kevin.granade/32/1316_2.png) [@kevin.granade](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/u/kevin.granade)\
**Post date:** [February 8, 2014, 11:00pm UTC](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/bibles-books-of-mormons-torahs-menorrahs-branch-davidians-book-of-christ/5015/6 "2014-02-08T23:00:47Z")

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I’m massively against self-censorship. Put em in I say.

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**Author:** ![Rivet](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/discourse.cataclysmdda.org/rivet/32/11_2.png) [@Rivet](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/u/Rivet)\
**Post date:** [February 8, 2014, 11:03pm UTC](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/bibles-books-of-mormons-torahs-menorrahs-branch-davidians-book-of-christ/5015/7 "2014-02-08T23:03:15Z")

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> [@Kevin Granade](#):
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> I’m massively against self-censorship. Put em in I say.

I’ll PR it post-haste.

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**Author:** ![TheGrifter](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/278dde/32.png) [@TheGrifter](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/u/TheGrifter)\
**Post date:** [February 8, 2014, 11:08pm UTC](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/bibles-books-of-mormons-torahs-menorrahs-branch-davidians-book-of-christ/5015/8 "2014-02-08T23:08:26Z")

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> [@John Candlebury](#):
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> We need those scientology books ingame. You know the soap operas about the Tethans and Xemu and all that.

Agreed!

Only L. Ron Hubbard could put out such a thrilling bit of gibberish while popping greys and pinks out in Las Palmas.

Sure, it might have broke his mind and fried him insane, slashed his tires and tore out his brain, but he had to go that far.

To deliver the message. What message? I’m not sure. But they’re tax-exempt and have huge apocalypse bunkers.

Hell, they have titanium tablets ten feet tall, etched into them with acid, the words of a sc-fi writer turned self described prophet. Add them too.

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**Author:** ![Ferodaktyl](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/discourse.cataclysmdda.org/ferodaktyl/32/56_2.png) [@Ferodaktyl](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/u/Ferodaktyl)\
**Post date:** [February 8, 2014, 11:18pm UTC](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/bibles-books-of-mormons-torahs-menorrahs-branch-davidians-book-of-christ/5015/9 "2014-02-08T23:18:20Z")

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but we have the holly play-boy, you heathens! I’ve been also searching for a USB stick filled with porn for ages, to start my own church.

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**Author:** ![ChristopherWalken](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/ecccb3/32.png) [@ChristopherWalken](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/u/ChristopherWalken)\
**Post date:** [February 8, 2014, 11:33pm UTC](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/bibles-books-of-mormons-torahs-menorrahs-branch-davidians-book-of-christ/5015/10 "2014-02-08T23:33:38Z")

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More things to set ablaze on discovery.

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**Author:** ![TheGrifter](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/278dde/32.png) [@TheGrifter](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/u/TheGrifter)\
**Post date:** [February 8, 2014, 11:37pm UTC](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/bibles-books-of-mormons-torahs-menorrahs-branch-davidians-book-of-christ/5015/11 "2014-02-08T23:37:15Z")

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> [@ChristopherWalken](#):
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> More things to set ablaze on discovery.

That is equality! Without the right to set these things on fire, you’re discriminating against them by omission!

The post-apocalyptic anarchistic wasteland is a free country, you know.

If you want to burn your religious texts, feel free. But me, I might collect them, make a tower of safety and godliness from books, and then light it ablaze as a flaming candle of righteousness, to dissuade evil bible burners like you! NO QUARTER HERE FOR YER KIND! ALL OUR BOOKS ALREADY BEEN BURNT! NO VACANCIES, OR VAGRANCY!

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**Author:** ![Caconym](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/aca169/32.png) [@Caconym](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/u/Caconym)\
**Post date:** [February 8, 2014, 11:51pm UTC](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/bibles-books-of-mormons-torahs-menorrahs-branch-davidians-book-of-christ/5015/12 "2014-02-08T23:51:30Z")

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Add them, if your ‘worried’ or ‘concerned’ about offending people, don’t be, nearly anything can and will offend some people.

Besides they make great bed tome reading and/or perfect for cooking tins of spam over.

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**Author:** ![Iosyn](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/discourse.cataclysmdda.org/iosyn/32/35_2.png) [@Iosyn](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/u/Iosyn)\
**Post date:** [February 9, 2014, 12:04am UTC](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/bibles-books-of-mormons-torahs-menorrahs-branch-davidians-book-of-christ/5015/13 "2014-02-09T00:04:20Z")

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A priest/preacher profession could be cool.  
  
‘Soapbox Preacher’   
You always said the end was nigh. Unfortunately, it seems God has chosen you for new trials.

Starts with:  
small cardboard box  
Pocket watch  
Dress shoes  
Robes  
Bible  
Cross/Blunt weapon.

Maybe a few points into speech.  
I’d suggest a militant mullah one as well, but…

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**Author:** ![Natures\_Witness](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/discourse.cataclysmdda.org/natures_witness/32/165_2.png) [@Natures\_Witness](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/u/Natures_Witness)\
**Post date:** [February 9, 2014, 12:11am UTC](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/bibles-books-of-mormons-torahs-menorrahs-branch-davidians-book-of-christ/5015/14 "2014-02-09T00:11:37Z")

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Profession: Padre Destino  
Starts with his armored half-track

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**Author:** ![system](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/uploads/cataclysmdda/original/1X/21b5d044e8473b25d0bf905d60477e25f6fbe0cf.png) [@system](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/u/system)\
**Post date:** [February 9, 2014, 2:36am UTC](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/bibles-books-of-mormons-torahs-menorrahs-branch-davidians-book-of-christ/5015/15 "2014-02-09T02:36:58Z")

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I hope we have the Ur-Quan in game.  
I already make my survivors do Ramadan.

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**Author:** ![Rivet](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/discourse.cataclysmdda.org/rivet/32/11_2.png) [@Rivet](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/u/Rivet)\
**Post date:** [February 9, 2014, 3:22am UTC](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/bibles-books-of-mormons-torahs-menorrahs-branch-davidians-book-of-christ/5015/16 "2014-02-09T03:22:42Z")

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[quote=“gtaguy, post:15, topic:5015”]I hope we have the Ur-Quan in game.  
I already make my survivors do Ramadan.[/quote]

Quran?

Google reports that ‘Ur-Quan’ is some video game silliness.

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**Author:** ![system](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/uploads/cataclysmdda/original/1X/21b5d044e8473b25d0bf905d60477e25f6fbe0cf.png) [@system](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/u/system)\
**Post date:** [February 9, 2014, 3:32am UTC](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/bibles-books-of-mormons-torahs-menorrahs-branch-davidians-book-of-christ/5015/17 "2014-02-09T03:32:11Z")

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FUKKIN AUTO CORRECT.

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**Author:** ![Natures\_Witness](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/discourse.cataclysmdda.org/natures_witness/32/165_2.png) [@Natures\_Witness](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/u/Natures_Witness)\
**Post date:** [February 9, 2014, 3:41am UTC](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/bibles-books-of-mormons-torahs-menorrahs-branch-davidians-book-of-christ/5015/18 "2014-02-09T03:41:54Z")

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The Ur-Quan are kinda neat I guess, but it would be MUCH cooler to add the Zoq-Fot-Pik to the game. After all, they are the only known species to have discovered fire, the wheel, and religion in the same day. And we could add in Frungy! Frungy is awesome!

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**Author:** ![kevin.granade](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/discourse.cataclysmdda.org/kevin.granade/32/1316_2.png) [@kevin.granade](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/u/kevin.granade)\
**Post date:** [February 9, 2014, 3:44am UTC](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/bibles-books-of-mormons-torahs-menorrahs-branch-davidians-book-of-christ/5015/19 "2014-02-09T03:44:47Z")

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haha that’s great, I just took Ur-Quan at face value as an insinuation that game fans are religious nuts.

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**Author:** ![i2amroy](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/discourse.cataclysmdda.org/i2amroy/32/909_2.png) [@i2amroy](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/u/i2amroy)\
**Post date:** [February 9, 2014, 5:25am UTC](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/bibles-books-of-mormons-torahs-menorrahs-branch-davidians-book-of-christ/5015/20 "2014-02-09T05:25:39Z")

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I find it funny that you have apparently typed Ur-Quan enough times that spell check would use it over the real world “Quran”.

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