# Being able to upgrade the camp yourself

**URL:** <https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/being-able-to-upgrade-the-camp-yourself/25067>\
**Category:** The Garage\
**Created:** [October 26, 2020, 3:48pm UTC](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/being-able-to-upgrade-the-camp-yourself/25067 "2020-10-26T15:48:21Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 5\
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**Author:** ![bruhmoment32](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/discourse.cataclysmdda.org/bruhmoment32/32/7524_2.png) [@bruhmoment32](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/u/bruhmoment32)\
**Post date:** [October 26, 2020, 3:48pm UTC](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/being-able-to-upgrade-the-camp-yourself/25067/1 "2020-10-26T15:48:22Z")

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Hello, i’m very new to faction camps but i always try to make one when i can, thing is, the only thing keeping me off the camps is the fact that only NPC’s can upgrade them, and since i always forget/ am uninterested in upgrading their skills, i cant “officially” upgrade my camp even though i could make the upgrades by myself, is there anyway to “turn out” camp upgrades by yourself??? (btw im only talking about the first upgrade of the evac shelter camp, i always want a wood stove but since its too hard for most NPC’s i just make it myself)

EDIT: moved this to garage because i realized it fit more there

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**Author:** ![We\_are\_Alpharius48](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/df705f/32.png) [@We\_are\_Alpharius48](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/u/We_are_Alpharius48)\
**Post date:** [October 28, 2020, 1:23pm UTC](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/being-able-to-upgrade-the-camp-yourself/25067/2 "2020-10-28T13:23:03Z")

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There’s a different thread that talks about just the faction camps and one of the higher-ups said they were fixing it at some point

> [@Faction Camps Vs Non Faction Camp Bases](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/faction-camps-vs-non-faction-camp-bases/22111/6):
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> The faction camp system is inadequate, I agree. I’m working on making it better but there’s a lot to do. People are welcome to contribute but since dpwb left, there hasn’t been a lot of collaborative work there.

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**Author:** ![We\_are\_Alpharius48](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/df705f/32.png) [@We\_are\_Alpharius48](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/u/We_are_Alpharius48)\
**Post date:** [October 28, 2020, 1:26pm UTC](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/being-able-to-upgrade-the-camp-yourself/25067/3 "2020-10-28T13:26:11Z")

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But I totally agreed with you and the fact you can’t control where stuff is deployed also ground my gears when I saw the FC system.

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**Author:** ![bruhmoment32](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/discourse.cataclysmdda.org/bruhmoment32/32/7524_2.png) [@bruhmoment32](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/u/bruhmoment32)\
**Post date:** [October 28, 2020, 11:25pm UTC](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/being-able-to-upgrade-the-camp-yourself/25067/4 "2020-10-28T23:25:53Z")

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thanks!! i didnt know the dev team already talked about it

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**Author:** ![We\_are\_Alpharius48](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/df705f/32.png) [@We\_are\_Alpharius48](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/u/We_are_Alpharius48)\
**Post date:** [October 28, 2020, 11:42pm UTC](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/being-able-to-upgrade-the-camp-yourself/25067/5 "2020-10-28T23:42:08Z")

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No problem, I already told them that the system is pretty Jank as it is currently and one could simply make a faction camp with one map tile by themselves instead of the AI taking up like several. Not to mention there is zero control where things are placed. I recommended things be connected to zoning or the AI just using facilities already constructed. But that’s my opinion