Bases and NPC crafting

RipRoarinBoogerPenis · 2017-10-18T10:53:06.000Z

Fantastic, thrilled to see this project hasn’t been forgotten!

Theundyingcode · 2017-10-18T17:32:52.000Z

RipRoarinBoogerPenis:

Fantastic, thrilled to see this project hasn’t been forgotten!

No just generally slow moving and kinda in a life slump at the moment.

Beetlecat · 2017-10-20T18:50:14.000Z

Theundyingcode:

No just generally slow moving and kinda in a life slump at the moment.

Ugh. Totally hear that – Hang in there, etc. ( ) but in the mean time, thank you for your efforts and creative input on this. Looking forward to what comes of it.

AwonGardino · 2017-10-21T13:57:22.000Z

Sounds too good to be real. Will you make also a social interaction with NPC (Daily talk, telling a stories, etc) and relationships like friendship and rivalry (without killing eachother)?

darktoes · 2017-10-22T00:38:01.000Z

Yeah, regardless of how long we have to wait, this would be an amazing addition to the game. I can’t wait to see what happens. Keep at it man (When you have the time, of course)!

chronicpayne · 2017-10-22T01:54:44.000Z

Second that, this looks fantastic, really hope everything pushes through to see the light of day!

Theundyingcode · 2017-10-23T19:56:48.000Z

So my computer has crashed out… I was expecting it to happen sometime but I thought I had another couple months before it happened.

Last December, My computer got a bad virus on a trip and I absolutely needed to get a bunch of work done. With no secondary device for internet and no backup tools I ended up manually disabling/deleting a whole bunch of stuff. I got it working and finished my work but never got around to actually fixing the computer since it worked (mostly) but it has been slowly degrading since. I guess it finally decided to call it quits.

I’m getting it back up and running but its put me behind with other stuff. I’m not giving up on this project but please don’t be wanting on me. Sorry.

EDIT: I should have all of my work saved elsewhere but, I was using a Visual studio license from my old school that I am not interested in recovering so it might take some time to dig it out. (Never liked vs to many things make it too complicated to do simple things but the windows builds were for it.) I’m putting in a Linux partition and will be working from that. Worst comes to worst, redoing it is simply a matter of retyping it.

Coolthulhu · 2017-10-24T03:10:02.000Z

Not PRing anything and not even having it on github is a big risk. You can lose entire project easily if you have no backup, no history, nothing. I lost many big changes to editor crashes.
PRing (with “[WiP][CR]” tags) even something that doesn’t work would get you hints on how to get it to work. Trying to figure out everything by yourself will not only slow you down, it will prevent you from learning many things.

Theundyingcode · 2017-10-24T04:31:30.000Z

I found it. I wasn’t worried about having lost it as everything thing is backed up to 4 different locations; the problem was I didn’t know where VS put the git stuff.

Maarberg · 2017-11-02T16:27:16.000Z

I’m super excited for this mod. Its what I’ve really been wanting from C:DDA.

When I started playing video games back in the 90’s their was a game about Japanese warfare. the first 10 levels where you as a samurai fighting other samurai. Each level was harder with more enemy’s. Every one died in one hit. Including you. Then you took over an area and now you were in charge of a group of samurai. After conquering the surrounding area (about 15 levels) you then began your fight to conquer all of japan and become Emperor. Games with this pattern are so much more interesting to me. I could always see how easy it would be for C:DDA to have this but it wasn’t their. Your mod feels like its going to fill in the gap. Thank you for reaching, to create this.

Theundyingcode · 2017-11-02T17:51:15.000Z

I forgot to announce it here but, I PRed the start. It’s still just a framework and not ready to be added yet but it’s up for review.

https://github.com/CleverRaven/Cataclysm-DDA/pull/22311

Johnsmith · 2018-01-31T09:10:08.491Z

Is this still being worked on?

Homie_McCool · 2018-02-03T10:19:11.310Z

Same with Johnsmith. Curious if the project is still open. Changes are still being made to your branch of the code, so maybe?

Einstein_Cross · 2018-02-03T15:56:58.121Z

The suggestions you have proposed in the PR are what I believe is exactly what this game needs to move on to the “next level” so-to-speak. I hope it is still ongoing, as it would be a shame to lose such an incredible idea.

NirvashPrototype · 2018-02-04T00:39:38.920Z

Agree, those ideas are very important.

psyxypher · 2018-02-04T01:47:26.868Z

NPCs, Bases and Factions should probably be the focus of development after whatever goal there is for 0.D is reached.

The problem is, to my understanding:

1: NPCs aren’t simple
2: The Devs* have no interest in pursuing NPCs.

*Are there actually any more Devs than Kevin? If not, that’s kind of a problem IMO, because he’s just one guy.

mlangsdorf · 2018-02-04T02:50:04.746Z

The repository shows 16 unique contributors in the last 150 commits; since roughly 1 January 2018.

$ git shortlog -150 | grep "):"
Alexey Mostovoy (2):
Angela Graves (13):
Anton Burmistrov (6):
BevapDin (63):
BorkBorkGoesTheCode (6):
Brett Dong (5):
Broken-Admin (1):
Cyrano7 (3):
Graywolfe813 (1):
Kevin Granade (24):
Night-Pryanik (12):
Noctifer-de-Mortem (3):
OzoneH3 (1):
Soyweiser (4):
ZhilkinSerg (5):
jason hoang (1):

There were roughly 180 unique contributors in 2017 as best I can figure. It’s not all just Kevin. I think the problem with wanting improvements on NPCs, Bases, and Factions is all that code is hard to understand, and before you can make much progress on bases, for instance, you’ll want to fix mapgen, which is also code that is hard to understand.

BorkBorkGoesTheCode · 2018-02-04T03:53:57.897Z

Anyone not banned can fork the repository, change the code, and make a PR, but only members with merge rights can add code to the main branch. That has created a bottleneck.

Einstein_Cross · 2018-02-04T05:12:55.067Z

Is the Bases and NPC Crafting code ready to be merged? I don’t see how merge rights could be an issues yet unless the code is 100% ready to upload. If it’s not ready, I’d wait to cross that bridge when the project comes to it.

kevin.granade · 2018-02-04T23:49:29.503Z

Einstein_Cross:

Is the Bases and NPC Crafting code ready to be merged?

It is not. From what I can see it’s rather a long way off from working, and it’s going to need a ton of refactoring to get merged (the ~300-line per change limit Coolthulu pointed out is utterly ignored in the current PR, which is fine for review, but it’s going to need to be split a LOT in order to be merged), and it was last updated in November.