# Attribute changes in .7

**URL:** <https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/attribute-changes-in-7/2452>\
**Category:** The Bunker\
**Created:** [July 28, 2013, 10:23pm UTC](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/attribute-changes-in-7/2452 "2013-07-28T22:23:30Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 3\
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**Author:** ![xLemor](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/x/ea5d25/32.png) [@xLemor](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/u/xLemor)\
**Post date:** [August 2, 2013, 8:23pm UTC](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/attribute-changes-in-7/2452/21 "2013-08-02T20:23:44Z")

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Perception used to be all you needed to be a good gun user.  
If you started with 14 perception you were almost automatically a firearm master, assuming that you had 1-2 lvls in firearms.  
By the time you had 4-5 firearms skills it was near impossible to miss a headshot on a target far awaywith a mere handgun (sniping targets out of the screen that you couldnt see with a usp .45 anyone? :p).  
It is good to see that they somewhat balanced it

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**Author:** ![Darkfyre](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/4da419/32.png) [@Darkfyre](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/u/Darkfyre)\
**Post date:** [August 13, 2013, 4:54am UTC](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/attribute-changes-in-7/2452/22 "2013-08-13T04:54:56Z")

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With a very low INT, you will also fail crafting at equal skill (ie, your skill equals the difficulty) a lot IIRC

Also, with a super low int you will basically have to take drugs to do anything involving computers, electronics and bionics.

Also, stay away from mines if you have 4 int or [glow=red,2,300]they[/glow] will get you

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**Author:** ![Iosyn](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/discourse.cataclysmdda.org/iosyn/32/35_2.png) [@Iosyn](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/u/Iosyn)\
**Post date:** [August 13, 2013, 9:07am UTC](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/attribute-changes-in-7/2452/23 "2013-08-13T09:07:57Z")

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[quote=“MarkB, post:17, topic:2452”][quote=“darth\_servo, post:16, topic:2452”]Eff that.

STR 8  
DEX 8  
INT 14  
PER 8

I’m a scientist, dammit![/quote]

Judging by the lab research reports, most professional scientists in CDDA used INT as their dump stat.[/quote]

How did you think they got the job when the economy is so bad?  
They wasted it all on traits like Pretty, Skilled liar, crossdresser and CHA.

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