# Are leadworks any good?
**URL:** https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/are-leadworks-any-good/20938
**Category:** The Bunker
**Created:** [July 30, 2019, 10:05pm UTC](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/are-leadworks-any-good/20938 "2019-07-30T22:05:12Z")
**Posts on this page:** 4
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### Author:  [@Bio](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/u/Bio)
#### Post date: [July 30, 2019, 10:05pm UTC](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/are-leadworks-any-good/20938/1 "2019-07-30T22:05:12Z")
Are leadwork weapons any good? I always personally shunned them since their mod slots can’t be changed, and I prefer my weapons to have options, but i’m wondering just how well they actually stack up the standard manufactured guns that can support things like under-barrel weapons and such.
Are they more accurate/damaging? Or are they only good when there are no alternatives?
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### Author:  [@DemAvalon](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/u/DemAvalon)
#### Post date: [July 31, 2019, 2:40am UTC](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/are-leadworks-any-good/20938/2 "2019-07-31T02:40:24Z")
from what I remember the whole leadworks gimmick is that their mods are the best, but you can’t remove them or add more, so if you have a lot of good gun mods and the skill to install them its better to do that, but Leadwork’s are good as a “right out of the box” kind of thing.
when in doubt, just press" I "to compare two guns and pick the one you like best.
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### Author:  [@Bio](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/u/Bio)
#### Post date: [July 31, 2019, 5:50pm UTC](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/are-leadworks-any-good/20938/3 "2019-07-31T17:50:12Z")
yeah I tried comparing them but there was too much math for me to account for.
I’m more simplistic in how I choose to murder people. Probably part of the reason why my death machines are more like fortresses than vehicles.
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### Author:  [@techincal](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/u/techincal)
#### Post date: [July 31, 2019, 7:16pm UTC](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/are-leadworks-any-good/20938/4 "2019-07-31T19:16:29Z")
They’re basically best in caliber or have some unique advantage you won’t find in weapons of the same caliber.
9mm - very large clip, fits a silencer, basically out of the box perfect 9mm pistol
Shotty - IIRC best 8 round shotty
.46 - assault rifle level damage in a pistol, 3-round burst
.223 rifle - 3 round burst without sig’s folding stock
.223 LMG - has both bipod and a forward grip (no other weapon has this), 3 round burst and full auto