# Anyone figured out how to harvest resin pods from mi-go towers? (2nd floor) \[10845\]
**URL:** https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/anyone-figured-out-how-to-harvest-resin-pods-from-mi-go-towers-2nd-floor-10845/24174
**Category:** The Bunker
**Created:** [July 16, 2020, 9:15pm UTC](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/anyone-figured-out-how-to-harvest-resin-pods-from-mi-go-towers-2nd-floor-10845/24174 "2020-07-16T21:15:02Z")
**Posts on this page:** 14
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### Author:  [@Fload](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/u/Fload)
#### Post date: [July 17, 2020, 8:18pm UTC](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/anyone-figured-out-how-to-harvest-resin-pods-from-mi-go-towers-2nd-floor-10845/24174/44 "2020-07-17T20:18:03Z")
Ty ty, I have to thank everyone here for supplying enough info for me to understand how this all works.
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### Author:  [@Valase](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/u/Valase)
#### Post date: [July 18, 2020, 4:21am UTC](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/anyone-figured-out-how-to-harvest-resin-pods-from-mi-go-towers-2nd-floor-10845/24174/45 "2020-07-18T04:21:18Z")
Oh well, that was basically the plan I had, just with a ramp up at the side of the building and some explosives to get in. I wasn’t sure if heat/cold could move up/down stairs, so I wanted everything on one level.
…So… I guess I can now stop to gather material to test that…
Welp, 6 hours of sleep/work wasted…
> [@Fload](#):
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> To be clear, this only works because vehicle construction is a bit cheesy, I can install frames and coolers and mufflers without actually being inside the tower.
Well, if this ever changes, you’d have to construct the vehicle outside with the cooler right up at the (until you reach it closed) door.
Than you can stand next to the cooler to install the next frame, move the cooler one space, move yourself, install the next frame… So it’s possible to move slowly along while constructing it, keeping cool.
> [@Fload](#):
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> Materials required:
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> - ~13 light wooden frames and short ropes (5 min install each) [39 planks and, um, 52 ropes].
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If you install `cart handle`s instead, you’ll only use 50 seconds and 1 pipe each (and a welder/toolset with enough charges). You could also use `yoke and harness`es for the same time bonus and no welder usage, but it’ll need a lot of material and preparation beforehand. Just remember to install frames for the muffler (probably your starter frame) and the cooler.
Also, you don’t need a dashboard; you can run in, turn the cooler on (at the tile you’ve installed it) and get back out without getting warm.
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PS: You could also define a construction zone over the pods (with deconstruct blueprint) and let a NPC do the work, if you have one (they might run around for a while to dodge the heat, but sometimes they start deconstructing if they are close enough to one of the pods)…
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### Author:  [@Fload](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/u/Fload)
#### Post date: [July 18, 2020, 2:05pm UTC](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/anyone-figured-out-how-to-harvest-resin-pods-from-mi-go-towers-2nd-floor-10845/24174/46 "2020-07-18T14:05:08Z")
> [@Valase](#):
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> Oh well, that was basically the plan I had, just with a ramp up at the side of the building and some explosives to get in.
What kind of explosive payload do you need to puncture those walls? I don’t supposed shaped charges are a thing?
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### Author:  [@GiggleGrassGatherer](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/u/GiggleGrassGatherer)
#### Post date: [July 18, 2020, 2:11pm UTC](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/anyone-figured-out-how-to-harvest-resin-pods-from-mi-go-towers-2nd-floor-10845/24174/47 "2020-07-18T14:11:03Z")
Sonic resonator works. Probably some explosives should work, too, but I didn’t test it.
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### Author:  [@Fload](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/u/Fload)
#### Post date: [July 18, 2020, 2:12pm UTC](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/anyone-figured-out-how-to-harvest-resin-pods-from-mi-go-towers-2nd-floor-10845/24174/48 "2020-07-18T14:12:38Z")
> [@GiggleGrassGatherer](#):
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> Sonic resonator works. Probably some explosives should work, too, but I didn’t test it.
Doesn’t that mean the sonic resonator can also destroy scarred\_lumps (str\_min 250)? I don’t think it’s precise enough in this application (pods are much weaker), but that’s a handy thing to know if true. It would make “claiming” a migo tower as your own a possibility (at least… I think). That would be a really cool project to try out. Until the resin pod charges bug is fixed, that’s your best shot at having your own resin fortification.
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### Author:  [@GiggleGrassGatherer](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/u/GiggleGrassGatherer)
#### Post date: [July 18, 2020, 2:17pm UTC](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/anyone-figured-out-how-to-harvest-resin-pods-from-mi-go-towers-2nd-floor-10845/24174/49 "2020-07-18T14:17:20Z")
just tested, doesn’t look like SR can destroy it. It definitely destroys resin walls and those prison cell doors, though.
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### Author:  [@Fload](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/u/Fload)
#### Post date: [July 18, 2020, 2:18pm UTC](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/anyone-figured-out-how-to-harvest-resin-pods-from-mi-go-towers-2nd-floor-10845/24174/50 "2020-07-18T14:18:39Z")
Ah, yeah it is described as being destructive to walls specifically. I guess that makes sense. A shame. I’m pretty sure the prison cells can be bashed down (str\_min 70, I think?). If you’re strong enough to use a heavy sledge that’ll be more than enough.
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### Author:  [@Valase](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/u/Valase)
#### Post date: [July 18, 2020, 6:29pm UTC](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/anyone-figured-out-how-to-harvest-resin-pods-from-mi-go-towers-2nd-floor-10845/24174/51 "2020-07-18T18:29:34Z")
> [@GiggleGrassGatherer](#):
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> Sonic resonator works.
> [@Fload](#):
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> Doesn’t that mean the sonic resonator can also destroy scarred\_lumps (str\_min 250)?
> [@GiggleGrassGatherer](#):
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> It definitely destroys resin walls […]
Sadly, no. I know, it was my own suggestion in an other thread, but testing shows that - while a sonic resonator CBM destroys `resin portal`s, `resin lined hole`s, `resin cage`s and all “furniture” (at least after a few tries) - it will not destroy `scarred lump`s, `resin wall`s or `resin floor`s.
> [@Fload](#):
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> What kind of explosive payload do you need to puncture those walls?
Improvised demolition charge is not enough, but I was sucessful with a `black gunpowder charge` once. Retesting it now however shows that I probably lucked out back then, since I’m unable to recreate that situation.
You could use an ANFO/RDX charge, but that seems a bit overkill.
A `M72 LAW` or `RPG-7` does the job well. It tears a hole into the wall where it hits and does not destroy the ground underneath it (unless you use `PG-7VR 64mm/105mm rocket` ammunition).
Even a `crude rocket launcher` with an `explosive homemade rocket` has enough power to tear down the wall.
Just always do it from the outside on the wall of that small room with the seperate door (close it beforehand), so you don’t damage any pods while busting through.
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### Author:  [@TheZoneWizard](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/u/TheZoneWizard)
#### Post date: [July 18, 2020, 7:30pm UTC](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/anyone-figured-out-how-to-harvest-resin-pods-from-mi-go-towers-2nd-floor-10845/24174/52 "2020-07-18T19:30:17Z")
Is there changing ZLevel view and targeting yet?
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### Author:  [@Valase](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/u/Valase)
#### Post date: [July 18, 2020, 7:47pm UTC](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/anyone-figured-out-how-to-harvest-resin-pods-from-mi-go-towers-2nd-floor-10845/24174/53 "2020-07-18T19:47:44Z")
Yes. But you’ll have to turn on `Experimental 3D field of vision` in the `Debug` category in the game options.
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### Author:  [@Fload](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/u/Fload)
#### Post date: [July 21, 2020, 5:01pm UTC](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/anyone-figured-out-how-to-harvest-resin-pods-from-mi-go-towers-2nd-floor-10845/24174/54 "2020-07-21T17:01:05Z")
> [@Fload](#):
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> Okay, tested this out on the 1st floor (debug spawning materials). Built a long string of frames starting outside and leading in through the doorway. Inside the building are two attached coolers, and on the outside end I have a muffler, storage battery, and electronics control unit.
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> This cools the tower substantially after a few hours. Doesn’t seem to get lower than 100 F, even after waiting another 3 hrs. and I’m a little suspicious that the lower temperature outside is doing some of the heavy lifting here. Adding a 3rd cooler had no effect. I went ahead and just waited (without using a cooling system, pic below) and yes the local ambient temperature has a pretty substantial effect. This suggests there’s a pretty serious limit to how much cooling you can actually do on your own. That said, 100 F makes pod extraction on the 1st floor (with internal cc & rm13) totally reasonable, only going so far as “warm”.
Ughhh I think the recent mi-go structure re-balance broke this solution. You get an appropriate amount of pod(s) from each deconstruct, but not as charges. I can barely haul two out at a time and each cargo space can’t hold more than 10-11. However, the bigger issue is that coolers aren’t doing much of anything anymore, I don’t really know why. I am 10 days later in spring but if that’s making most of the difference, trying to cool it is a massive waste of effort.
I’m noticing a modest difference on the 1st floor (two coolers running for several hours), but not enough to prevent scorching before I’m even halfway done with a pod. The 2nd floor temp is now basically unchanged. Everything about this is frustrating. I’ve wasted so much time with the assumption this was a usable feature.
**Can more coolers have a significant effect? I’m willing to try it if ~2 or more coolers might work, but I’ll definitely test it with debug cheats first. Learned my lesson for sure.**
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### Author:  [@Fload](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/u/Fload)
#### Post date: [July 21, 2020, 5:31pm UTC](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/anyone-figured-out-how-to-harvest-resin-pods-from-mi-go-towers-2nd-floor-10845/24174/55 "2020-07-21T17:31:40Z")
> [@Fload](#):
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> **Can more coolers have a significant effect? I’m willing to try it if ~2 or more coolers might work, but I’ll definitely test it with debug cheats first. Learned my lesson for sure.**
Nope nope nope. Just don’t even bother. I installed a cooler on the 1st floor ramp and it’s been running for 6+ hours. In that time I have added coolers in the immediate vicinity (total of 4). I’ve circled the pathetically small effect range (distribution of cold air). It averages a ~10 degree difference, not nearly enough. I need 60+ pods to add a room to my base, probably just going to spawn them in, as much as I wanted to do it myself.
And here’s what the 1st floor looks like in case you’re wondering if it’s worth the extra effort it would take to deploy on the 2nd floor. This is still more than enough to scorch you before you’re halfway done with a pod, (even with CC CBM and Rm13 powered). Those 108 temps are not consistent, they don’t last more than a second or so at a time.
And bear in mind that this time I gathered and crafted everything myself (spawned two more coolers at the end to check if 4 made any difference). This represents a solid in-game day of prep. Not the most encouraging results.
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### Author:  [@Fload](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/u/Fload)
#### Post date: [March 19, 2021, 1:22pm UTC](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/anyone-figured-out-how-to-harvest-resin-pods-from-mi-go-towers-2nd-floor-10845/24174/57 "2021-03-19T13:22:53Z")
Yeah if you want to wait until winter, it’s probably more doable on winter nights, at least on the 1st and 2nd floors. But that can be a loooong wait, by then I think the utility of the resin ports isn’t worth it anymore.
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### Author:  [@zantanzuken](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/u/zantanzuken)
#### Post date: [March 19, 2021, 4:53pm UTC](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/anyone-figured-out-how-to-harvest-resin-pods-from-mi-go-towers-2nd-floor-10845/24174/58 "2021-03-19T16:53:42Z")
always kind of wondered why we couldn’t construct something like a stand-alone wood based swamp cooler, or something similar, that would allow you to pick it up (with high weight) and place it down somewhere hot (like a mi-go tower), lowering the overall temperature enough that its survivable, if not thriveable… could also be a low-tech alternative for early characters in the summer.
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