# Any quick tips for outfit

**URL:** <https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/any-quick-tips-for-outfit/5244>\
**Category:** The Bunker\
**Created:** [February 28, 2014, 5:19pm UTC](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/any-quick-tips-for-outfit/5244 "2014-02-28T17:19:00Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 10\
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**Author:** ![lootpack](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/discourse.cataclysmdda.org/lootpack/32/257_2.png) [@lootpack](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/u/lootpack)\
**Post date:** [March 3, 2014, 12:51pm UTC](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/any-quick-tips-for-outfit/5244/21 "2014-03-03T12:51:16Z")

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The best you can have is survivor gear and some tight underwear. You have to craft the survivor stuff, and some of the good underwear is quite rare to find. Bonus points are awarded for adding a fireproof middle layer.

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**Author:** ![qurvax](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/q/ecc23a/32.png) [@qurvax](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/u/qurvax)\
**Post date:** [March 3, 2014, 4:26pm UTC](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/any-quick-tips-for-outfit/5244/22 "2014-03-03T16:26:53Z")

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Swords?! Do it like a man, with a combat knife! 🙂

Also, 305 storage? How about rain? Still 4?

P.S\> Does somebody know, how to refit MBR vests? It’s says “It could be refitted.” on the layering screen, but seving kits don’t work for that.

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**Author:** ![whiran](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/f19dbf/32.png) [@whiran](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/u/whiran)\
**Post date:** [March 3, 2014, 4:43pm UTC](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/any-quick-tips-for-outfit/5244/23 "2014-03-03T16:43:06Z")

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[quote=“qurvax, post:22, topic:5244”]Swords?! Do it like a man, with a combat knife! 🙂

Also, 305 storage? How about rain? Still 4?

P.S\> Does somebody know, how to refit MBR vests? It’s says “It could be refitted.” on the layering screen, but seving kits don’t work for that.[/quote]  
I figured this one out yesterday!

Disassemble the vest. That’ll empty it. Then you can craft a new one.

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**Author:** ![qurvax](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/q/ecc23a/32.png) [@qurvax](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/u/qurvax)\
**Post date:** [March 3, 2014, 4:51pm UTC](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/any-quick-tips-for-outfit/5244/24 "2014-03-03T16:51:04Z")

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Ouch, that’s not something i expected from “refitting”. Ofcourse i now how to get those damn plates out. They are just a dead weight imo.  
So, no “MBR vest (fits)” for me, i quess?

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**Author:** ![Soyweiser](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/discourse.cataclysmdda.org/soyweiser/32/37_2.png) [@Soyweiser](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/u/Soyweiser)\
**Post date:** [March 3, 2014, 5:56pm UTC](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/any-quick-tips-for-outfit/5244/25 "2014-03-03T17:56:46Z")

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[quote=“qurvax, post:24, topic:5244”]Ouch, that’s not something i expected from “refitting”. Ofcourse i now how to get those damn plates out. They are just a dead weight imo.  
So, no “MBR vest (fits)” for me, i quess?[/quote]

Have not tested it, but perhaps you can refit the MBR vests with a welder or soldering iron. Some gear gets refitted that way. (Which we really need to document better).

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**Author:** ![HunterAlpha1](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/6f9a4e/32.png) [@HunterAlpha1](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/u/HunterAlpha1)\
**Post date:** [March 3, 2014, 7:47pm UTC](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/any-quick-tips-for-outfit/5244/26 "2014-03-03T19:47:00Z")

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[quote=“lootpack, post:21, topic:5244”]The best you can have is survivor gear and some tight underwear. You have to craft the survivor stuff, and some of the good underwear is quite rare to find. Bonus points are awarded for adding a fireproof middle layer.[/quote]Just wondering, do you learn how to make survivor items from a book or as my skills raise?

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**Author:** ![FunsizeNinja123](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/discourse.cataclysmdda.org/funsizeninja123/32/118_2.png) [@FunsizeNinja123](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/u/FunsizeNinja123)\
**Post date:** [March 3, 2014, 8:40pm UTC](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/any-quick-tips-for-outfit/5244/27 "2014-03-03T20:40:16Z")

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Survivor items are from skills raising.

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**Author:** ![HunterAlpha1](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/6f9a4e/32.png) [@HunterAlpha1](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/u/HunterAlpha1)\
**Post date:** [March 3, 2014, 9:17pm UTC](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/any-quick-tips-for-outfit/5244/28 "2014-03-03T21:17:17Z")

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Sweet!

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**Author:** ![jimboblordofeskimos](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/discourse.cataclysmdda.org/jimboblordofeskimos/32/2_2.png) [@jimboblordofeskimos](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/u/jimboblordofeskimos)\
**Post date:** [March 4, 2014, 1:45am UTC](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/any-quick-tips-for-outfit/5244/29 "2014-03-04T01:45:00Z")

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You want at least 6 tailoring and some fabrication skills to make the survivor cargo pants/trenchcoat.  
My endgame loadout usually looks like:  
Molle pack  
Surv. Trenchcoat  
Surv. cargopants  
Surv. Harness  
Light Surv. boots  
2x Tactical gloves.  
Surv hood  
Army helm  
If per \>10 Surv facemask, if not ballistic glasses and filter mask  
Dump pouches x2  
elbow and knee pads.  
Leg drop pouch.

Torso/leg/hand enc is at 1, so enc isnt a real issue. Mouth at 2 is just something you learn to deal with for the sake of smokers. Feet is at zero cause thats the way I like it. Not much gets through my armor and ive got storage at about 180.

I usually start with the tailor prof. as it lets you craft some decent gear right off the bat. Starting loadout im looking at cargo pants, trenchcoat, backpack, leather helm/gloves, safety glasses, filter mask if I can, steelcaps (easy to find and fairly top notch shoes with 0 enc), plus whatever other armor wont cause me too many hassles enc wise. Bone and chitin stuff is fairly high tier and easy to make. I try and keep most of my enc at 0-1 on principle though.

Late game I usually have some serious winter gear in the ride for dealing with ice labs as well.

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**Author:** ![Kyriolexical\_Dino](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/discourse.cataclysmdda.org/kyriolexical_dino/32/276_2.png) [@Kyriolexical\_Dino](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/u/Kyriolexical_Dino)\
**Post date:** [March 4, 2014, 1:59am UTC](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/any-quick-tips-for-outfit/5244/30 "2014-03-04T01:59:06Z")

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For me it allways ends up with  
Head: Army helm, liner if cold as some have stated  
Eyes: Balistic glasses  
Mouth: Long fur scarf for general use, replace with survivor’s mask for dangerous places/smoker zeds.  
Torso: Duffel bag, Survivor’s trenchcoat and army jacket, if I find a fireman’s toolbelt then it goes in there too  
Arms: Elbow pads.  
Hands: Reinforced fingerless gloves and Chitinous gauntlets  
Legs: Survivor’s cargo pants, Holster, any kind of underwear depending on season  
Feet: Fireproof socks and Steel-Toed boots.

I usually end up with over 260 volume with that (I did have the packmule trait tough).

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