# Any ideas where to find normal cardboard boxes?
**URL:** https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/any-ideas-where-to-find-normal-cardboard-boxes/20511
**Category:** The Bunker
**Created:** [June 23, 2019, 3:46pm UTC](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/any-ideas-where-to-find-normal-cardboard-boxes/20511 "2019-06-23T15:46:45Z")
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### Author:  [@frac](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/u/frac)
#### Post date: [June 23, 2019, 3:46pm UTC](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/any-ideas-where-to-find-normal-cardboard-boxes/20511/1 "2019-06-23T15:46:45Z")
Been looking for the cardboard boxes for the survivor camp quests. Small and large are easy, but I only have one medium (the banana box size.) I think I found it in a bush. Searched the top floor of a mall and a couple labs, but no luck. Has anyone noticed nice stashes of medium cardboard boxes anywhere?
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### Author:  [@Bio](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/u/Bio)
#### Post date: [June 24, 2019, 1:23am UTC](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/any-ideas-where-to-find-normal-cardboard-boxes/20511/2 "2019-06-24T01:23:35Z")
what do you mean normal carboard boxes? I thought they only came in one size
But the easiest places I can think of are just bushes or trash disposal receptacles
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### Author:  [@mlangsdorf](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/u/mlangsdorf)
#### Post date: [June 24, 2019, 2:11am UTC](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/any-ideas-where-to-find-normal-cardboard-boxes/20511/3 "2019-06-24T02:11:56Z")
They now come in 3 sizes, and Dino Dave wants all 3. I have no idea where to get the medium boxes, though - I haven’t seen one yet.
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### Author:  [@Ragno](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/u/Ragno)
#### Post date: [June 24, 2019, 3:10am UTC](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/any-ideas-where-to-find-normal-cardboard-boxes/20511/4 "2019-06-24T03:10:15Z")
have someone tried to check the spawn places in the json files?
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### Author:  [@mlangsdorf](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/u/mlangsdorf)
#### Post date: [June 24, 2019, 12:25pm UTC](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/any-ideas-where-to-find-normal-cardboard-boxes/20511/5 "2019-06-24T12:25:13Z")
They’re a rare spawn in trash and forest trash, a fairly common spawn in recycling centers, a rare spawn in hardware stores and offices, and they sometimes show up in trader inventories.
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### Author:  [@roisterer](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/u/roisterer)
#### Post date: [June 24, 2019, 4:26pm UTC](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/any-ideas-where-to-find-normal-cardboard-boxes/20511/6 "2019-06-24T16:26:57Z")
There are loads of cardboard boxes in the basements of mansions.
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### Author:  [@mlangsdorf](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/u/mlangsdorf)
#### Post date: [June 24, 2019, 11:30pm UTC](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/any-ideas-where-to-find-normal-cardboard-boxes/20511/7 "2019-06-24T23:30:52Z")
Those are large cardboard boxes, not mediums.
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### Author:  [@roisterer](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/u/roisterer)
#### Post date: [June 25, 2019, 12:32am UTC](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/any-ideas-where-to-find-normal-cardboard-boxes/20511/8 "2019-06-25T00:32:11Z")
oh… so they are. My mistake.
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### Author:  [@TheZoneWizard](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/u/TheZoneWizard)
#### Post date: [June 25, 2019, 11:22am UTC](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/any-ideas-where-to-find-normal-cardboard-boxes/20511/9 "2019-06-25T11:22:33Z")
Food container boxes? Have those changed too?
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### Author:  [@CardinalMecha](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/u/CardinalMecha)
#### Post date: [June 25, 2019, 11:49am UTC](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/any-ideas-where-to-find-normal-cardboard-boxes/20511/10 "2019-06-25T11:49:43Z")
I recently found a “Cardboard Box” in a trashcan on one of the upper floors of an apartment tower so try checking trash cans when you get the chance!
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### Author:  [@Yukari\_Yakumo](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/u/Yukari_Yakumo)
#### Post date: [June 25, 2019, 12:02pm UTC](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/any-ideas-where-to-find-normal-cardboard-boxes/20511/11 "2019-06-25T12:02:24Z")
Are normal cardboard boxes supposed to be common
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### Author:  [@Ragno](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/u/Ragno)
#### Post date: [June 25, 2019, 10:51pm UTC](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/any-ideas-where-to-find-normal-cardboard-boxes/20511/12 "2019-06-25T22:51:32Z")
the cardboard boxes of this topic are the one used as containers, kind of like a crate. and AFAIK the boxes that contain food (or detergent, etc.) are still the same
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### Author:  [@frac](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/u/frac)
#### Post date: [June 27, 2019, 11:03pm UTC](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/any-ideas-where-to-find-normal-cardboard-boxes/20511/13 "2019-06-27T23:03:55Z")
No worries, and thanks for the try, roisterer. After some time checking trash cans, I spawned some normal boxes and destroyed some larges in recompense. Really cool having this little team of outcasts - they have some very interesting skills.
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### Author:  [@PALU](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/u/PALU)
#### Post date: [August 16, 2020, 8:14am UTC](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/any-ideas-where-to-find-normal-cardboard-boxes/20511/14 "2020-08-16T08:14:15Z")
I may be late to the party, but I’ve found that a box of toilet paper results in a banana box sized cardboard box (plus toilet paper, of course). Version 0.E stable.
I think it might be worth the while to revive the thread, as I suspect there are more newbies than me that will be looking for boxes.
As mentioned, small ones are found in homes (detergent for instance), and restaurants, etc. storing for storing food.
Large ones can be acquired from basements, as mentioned, by investing 7½ minute into deconstructing each of the constructed boxed found there (from the construction menu).
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### Author:  [@Junknown](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/u/Junknown)
#### Post date: [August 16, 2020, 10:51am UTC](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/any-ideas-where-to-find-normal-cardboard-boxes/20511/15 "2020-08-16T10:51:12Z")
Normal cardboard boxes were _much_ rarer when this thread started. Now they spawn in a reasonable amount and can be crafted if you really need them.
Instead of deconstructing large cardboard boxes 'e’xamine one and choose to take it down, you will save time that way.
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### Author:  [@PALU](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/u/PALU)
#### Post date: [August 16, 2020, 11:16am UTC](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/any-ideas-where-to-find-normal-cardboard-boxes/20511/16 "2020-08-16T11:16:23Z")
Thanks.
I’d missed that you can craft them, and the examine method seems rather useful (although I’ve had to waste time in basements to cool down, but I could have been reading instead).
Both the unspecified “medium” cardboard boxes and the large ones are somewhat tricky though, as they can be hard to recognize (I didn’t even realize the weird coat hangers of the “standard” tile set was boxes until I switched to the Undead People one, and them being constructed added another complication).