# Ants and stuff. Also, game Map. Also, WorldGen

**URL:** <https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/ants-and-stuff-also-game-map-also-worldgen/15261>\
**Category:** The Garage\
**Created:** [April 10, 2018, 12:19pm UTC](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/ants-and-stuff-also-game-map-also-worldgen/15261 "2018-04-10T12:19:04Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![Rose](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/discourse.cataclysmdda.org/rose/32/1963_2.png) [@Rose](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/u/Rose)\
**Post date:** [April 10, 2018, 12:19pm UTC](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/ants-and-stuff-also-game-map-also-worldgen/15261/1 "2018-04-10T12:19:04Z")

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So, ants. What’s the point in all those ant hills? I’ve killed hundreds of those pests around the hill and hundreds more inside, and all I’ve got as a reward is a single Ant Egg, aside from meat and stuff. Though I’m not even sure where that Egg came from. Nothing is inside an ant hill, no larva/food/queen chambers, contrary to what’s written on the wiki.

The same to be said about slime pits and bee hives, though the hives have some honey lying around, at least.

Moreover, the map down there becomes super glitchy and overlaps itself and fails to show any intelligible picture of my surroundings, so now I’m literally lost in those ant tunnels.

I do know these are different issues and the latter clearly needs to be made into a bug report, though I’m not sure how to do it.

![2276](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/uploads/cataclysmdda/original/2X/6/64eb127e7a9ce05d9471e931f0a24cff221c65ff.png)

Am I doing something wrong?

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**Author:** ![Rose](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/discourse.cataclysmdda.org/rose/32/1963_2.png) [@Rose](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/u/Rose)\
**Post date:** [April 10, 2018, 12:29pm UTC](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/ants-and-stuff-also-game-map-also-worldgen/15261/2 "2018-04-10T12:29:25Z")

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Oh, come on. This keeps happening. How do I make a bug report?

 ![2272](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/uploads/cataclysmdda/original/2X/4/4f14b05798990f3842b6b0a2f5f41455d2fdfbb4.png)

 ![2273](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/uploads/cataclysmdda/original/2X/e/e6c13b7f2dd215553f71023ae90572e5edd334cc.png)

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**Author:** ![Rose](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/discourse.cataclysmdda.org/rose/32/1963_2.png) [@Rose](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/u/Rose)\
**Post date:** [April 10, 2018, 12:35pm UTC](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/ants-and-stuff-also-game-map-also-worldgen/15261/3 "2018-04-10T12:35:04Z")

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No, come on, the WorldGen has clearly broken in this world. What is this, even?

 ![2275](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/uploads/cataclysmdda/original/2X/f/f42e4f80588335f296dab2d11385098e8b3a9b66.png)

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**Author:** ![BorkBorkGoesTheCode](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/discourse.cataclysmdda.org/borkborkgoesthecode/32/2343_2.png) [@BorkBorkGoesTheCode](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/u/BorkBorkGoesTheCode)\
**Post date:** [April 10, 2018, 1:32pm UTC](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/ants-and-stuff-also-game-map-also-worldgen/15261/4 "2018-04-10T13:32:55Z")

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That happens to hospitals as well.

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**Author:** ![Zhilkin](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/discourse.cataclysmdda.org/zhilkin/32/3749_2.png) [@Zhilkin](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/u/Zhilkin)\
**Post date:** [April 10, 2018, 2:20pm UTC](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/ants-and-stuff-also-game-map-also-worldgen/15261/5 "2018-04-10T14:20:57Z")

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Ants are source of protein, chitin and acid.

Please provide savegame and report game version number.

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**Author:** ![Sanehatter](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/c57346/32.png) [@Sanehatter](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/u/Sanehatter)\
**Post date:** [April 10, 2018, 3:37pm UTC](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/ants-and-stuff-also-game-map-also-worldgen/15261/6 "2018-04-10T15:37:09Z")

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Anthills should have different chambers connected so you can have access to eggs, queen chamber and stuff. My latest char also found anthills like yours and he was only able to explore them with probability travel.

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**Author:** ![PseudoLoneWolf](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/discourse.cataclysmdda.org/pseudolonewolf/32/2082_2.png) [@PseudoLoneWolf](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/u/PseudoLoneWolf)\
**Post date:** [April 10, 2018, 3:41pm UTC](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/ants-and-stuff-also-game-map-also-worldgen/15261/7 "2018-04-10T15:41:39Z")

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I recently went down the stairs to the basement of my evac shelter, which led to a steep drop which led to an anthill. The whole place was full of ant larvae, a couple soldier ants, and completely sealed. There were no stairs back up, there were no other rooms, there was just the one room and it was entirely self-contained with no way out of it at all.

I knowingly took this risk when I hopped down the stairs, but even so. I feel like this shouldn’t necessarily be a thing that can happen?

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**Author:** ![Rose](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/discourse.cataclysmdda.org/rose/32/1963_2.png) [@Rose](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/u/Rose)\
**Post date:** [April 10, 2018, 3:45pm UTC](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/ants-and-stuff-also-game-map-also-worldgen/15261/8 "2018-04-10T15:45:53Z")

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Provide to whom/where?

I understand that ants are like fleshy. But, surprisingly, all things are. I don’t need to go to some dark dungeon filled with insects to make a steak.

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**Author:** ![BorkBorkGoesTheCode](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/discourse.cataclysmdda.org/borkborkgoesthecode/32/2343_2.png) [@BorkBorkGoesTheCode](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/u/BorkBorkGoesTheCode)\
**Post date:** [April 10, 2018, 3:52pm UTC](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/ants-and-stuff-also-game-map-also-worldgen/15261/9 "2018-04-10T15:52:32Z")

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If you sign up for a GitHub account you can make an issue here: [https://github.com/CleverRaven/Cataclysm-DDA/issues](https://github.com/CleverRaven/Cataclysm-DDA/issues)

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**Author:** ![NuG](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/discourse.cataclysmdda.org/nug/32/7057_2.png) [@NuG](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/u/NuG)\
**Post date:** [April 10, 2018, 4:47pm UTC](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/ants-and-stuff-also-game-map-also-worldgen/15261/10 "2018-04-10T16:47:41Z")

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Yeah those bugged mansions were supposedly fixed, but I keep running into them too… If it is a mansion on the map with regular houses mixed in with it, don’t try and go up the stairs.  
[https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/mansion-spawn-bug-build-7179/](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/mansion-spawn-bug-build-7179/)

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**Author:** ![kbrows](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/5f8ce5/32.png) [@kbrows](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/u/kbrows)\
**Post date:** [April 10, 2018, 5:29pm UTC](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/ants-and-stuff-also-game-map-also-worldgen/15261/11 "2018-04-10T17:29:20Z")

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I have no issues with this

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**Author:** ![Zhilkin](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/discourse.cataclysmdda.org/zhilkin/32/3749_2.png) [@Zhilkin](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/u/Zhilkin)\
**Post date:** [April 10, 2018, 5:33pm UTC](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/ants-and-stuff-also-game-map-also-worldgen/15261/12 "2018-04-10T17:33:15Z")

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Bug persists in already generated overmaps

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**Author:** ![Rose](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/discourse.cataclysmdda.org/rose/32/1963_2.png) [@Rose](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/u/Rose)\
**Post date:** [April 10, 2018, 7:07pm UTC](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/ants-and-stuff-also-game-map-also-worldgen/15261/13 "2018-04-10T19:07:58Z")

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Regular mansions have no basements or top floors too for me. I really hate mansions. I really hate all those multi-tile structures.

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**Author:** ![NuG](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/discourse.cataclysmdda.org/nug/32/7057_2.png) [@NuG](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/u/NuG)\
**Post date:** [April 10, 2018, 7:26pm UTC](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/ants-and-stuff-also-game-map-also-worldgen/15261/14 "2018-04-10T19:26:57Z")

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Yeah I was thinking that might be the case for my game. If I marked the refugee center from an Evac PC, and the RefCenter is like 30 over maps away( or really really far), is everything in between already considered generated? I’ve been trying to move to new areas where I haven’t cleared the fog of war, but have still been finding the mansions. I guess I’m not too far from where I’ve started though, so maybe that is why.

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**Author:** ![NuG](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/discourse.cataclysmdda.org/nug/32/7057_2.png) [@NuG](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/u/NuG)\
**Post date:** [April 10, 2018, 7:27pm UTC](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/ants-and-stuff-also-game-map-also-worldgen/15261/15 "2018-04-10T19:27:45Z")

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> [@Rose](#):
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> Regular mansions have no basements or top floors too for me. I really hate mansions. I really hate all those multi-tile structures.

Yeah the mansion should be all Ms on the map, not a combination of M and \> .

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**Author:** ![Rose](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/discourse.cataclysmdda.org/rose/32/1963_2.png) [@Rose](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/u/Rose)\
**Post date:** [April 10, 2018, 7:39pm UTC](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/ants-and-stuff-also-game-map-also-worldgen/15261/16 "2018-04-10T19:39:14Z")

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I know. Regular

MMM  
MMM  
MMM

mansions do not have any other floors.

 ![2270](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/uploads/cataclysmdda/original/2X/6/6ad292d2986673a6613c6c71f8b74e083dd95ef4.png)

 ![2269](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/uploads/cataclysmdda/original/2X/c/c85f8e6e5819834a95136ba815e6c07b2655f451.png)

Not all of them, but at some point the Generator stopped working properly.

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**Author:** ![Rose](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/discourse.cataclysmdda.org/rose/32/1963_2.png) [@Rose](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/u/Rose)\
**Post date:** [April 10, 2018, 8:11pm UTC](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/ants-and-stuff-also-game-map-also-worldgen/15261/17 "2018-04-10T20:11:15Z")

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Also, this. Ridiculous. Also, a 15-ton vehicle losing lots of speed when colliding with bushes or even failing to move if located next to one.

![2263](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/uploads/cataclysmdda/original/2X/6/65f3350c1f17bc7054f28355921ee2b36de564e3.png)

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**Author:** ![psyxypher](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/discourse.cataclysmdda.org/psyxypher/32/11778_2.png) [@psyxypher](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/u/psyxypher)\
**Post date:** [April 10, 2018, 10:55pm UTC](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/ants-and-stuff-also-game-map-also-worldgen/15261/18 "2018-04-10T22:55:35Z")

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Just wait till you try going at supersonic speeds. Colliding with a bush/rock causes the vehicle to disintegrate while only breaking the rock/bush.

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**Author:** ![dissociativity](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/discourse.cataclysmdda.org/dissociativity/32/4967_2.png) [@dissociativity](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/u/dissociativity)\
**Post date:** [April 10, 2018, 11:28pm UTC](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/ants-and-stuff-also-game-map-also-worldgen/15261/19 "2018-04-10T23:28:01Z")

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only vaguely related but:  
I honestly think soldier ants on day 1 right next to the shelter is unbalanced given just how many spawn, using the zombie evolution system to make soldiers slowly increase in number seems more balanced, the soldier ants kill a pretty powerful NPC with claws and everything easily

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**Author:** ![Zhilkin](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/discourse.cataclysmdda.org/zhilkin/32/3749_2.png) [@Zhilkin](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/u/Zhilkin)\
**Post date:** [April 11, 2018, 6:10am UTC](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/ants-and-stuff-also-game-map-also-worldgen/15261/20 "2018-04-11T06:10:29Z")

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Don’t fight them maybe an option.

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