Animal Discord: Mauled to death by bears

TheGrifter · 2014-01-30T02:03:03.000Z

KA101:

Pretty confident that the bears just maul you. It’s worth a point because Animal Empathy costs a point, I’d imagine.

The few animals that do come to your aid with animal empathy are only worth one point.

The constant swarm of them that attack you with animal discord are worth like atleast two or three.

Because that trait spawns bears. Lots and lots of them with coyote friends.

Inadequate · 2014-01-30T02:06:10.000Z

Would you say the situation is…unbearable?

TheGrifter · 2014-01-30T02:11:12.000Z

This is like Animal Farm, if someone was crazy enough to farm bears, cougars, and wild dogs and fed them nothing but methamphetamines.

I would leave the farm, but the bear is very insistent that I do not. There is barbed wire keeping me safe, but I wonder… Is the barbed wire a prison, and the animals the guards?

Should have taken one less point in intelligence. It would have been smarter.

kevin.granade · 2014-01-30T02:22:37.000Z

It does not in fact spawn any additional animals, it just makes them hostile. (just checked)
I’m not going to make any statements about its balance though, it may well deserve another point or two.

system · 2014-01-30T02:25:42.000Z

Inadequate:

Would you say the situation is…unbearable?

Oh my god.

I just spit tea everywhere.

Rivet · 2014-01-30T02:28:03.000Z

I could see it being worth an extra point.

Has anybody else had experiences like this?

superninjakiwi · 2014-01-30T02:50:24.000Z

Moose attacked me constantly when i chose it, thought that may just be because they are moose.

Inadequate · 2014-01-30T02:51:17.000Z

Yes, moose will attack you constantly even with Animal Empathy.

system · 2014-01-30T02:54:48.000Z

1 point for constant bear assault is bearly reasonable.

Inquisitor_Dust · 2014-01-30T02:58:06.000Z

Oh god, why am I laughing so hard I shouldn’t be laughing so hard. But yeah, I could definitely see this getting bumped up a few points.

system · 2014-01-30T04:37:52.000Z

Really? I find these bear puns bearly funny.

Inadequate · 2014-01-30T04:40:50.000Z

That’s to be expected, I was hardly bruin my A-game.

Nopkar · 2014-01-30T07:02:52.000Z

two or more points

Early on its difficult to contend with the onslaught but after just a single day of training its a food magnet.

Empathy is worthless, the converse is too useful (as a negative)

Inadequate · 2014-01-30T07:17:13.000Z

Well, it’s not like regular wildlife is rare anyway. In the short term it’s painful, in the long term it’s slightly useful, and in the longer term, once you build up enough of a stockpile of non-rotting food that you don’t have to keep hunting wildlife daily, it becomes annoying when you just want to hole up but bears keep tearing through the walls.

ChristopherWalken · 2014-01-30T08:07:49.000Z

Moose only attack you if you go close to them without Animal discord.

Zireael · 2014-01-30T08:29:18.000Z

Add a point or two to Animal Discord is my suggestion.

Rivet · 2014-01-30T08:34:07.000Z

Okay, I’ll add a point to its value for the inconvenience of being stalked by moose with hostile intent.

John_Candlebury · 2014-01-30T09:40:50.000Z

Also, sleepy could have some discussion regarding if its an advantage or a disadvantage, from my point of view the increased sleep time is very advantagous due to the healing, spending more time in bed sounds like a. negligible penalty compared to that.

ChristopherWalken · 2014-01-30T09:44:17.000Z

Well I for one love heavy sleeper.
It has no disadvantages really, as long as you’re a bit careful where you sleep.

You’re still going to wake up if something attacks you anyways.
If I had to make Heavy Sleeper a bit negative (rather than granting you a good sleep and free points) I’d have it make you groggy for some time if you don’t sleep to ‘Well rested’.

i2amroy · 2014-01-31T05:43:18.000Z

This is kinda hilarious. That said it does show that our ‘attitude’ system really needs a bit of a rework to be a little more flexible.