# All the stable experimentals are gone
**URL:** https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/all-the-stable-experimentals-are-gone/12101
**Category:** The Garage
**Created:** [June 24, 2016, 9:37am UTC](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/all-the-stable-experimentals-are-gone/12101 "2016-06-24T09:37:46Z")
**Posts on this page:** 6
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### Author:  [@BorkBorkGoesTheCode](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/u/BorkBorkGoesTheCode)
#### Post date: [June 24, 2016, 9:37am UTC](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/all-the-stable-experimentals-are-gone/12101/1 "2016-06-24T09:37:46Z")
Does [dev.narc.ro](http://dev.narc.ro) keep an archive of previous experimentals somewhere, because the recent PRs have pushed all the stable ones off the main page.
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### Author:  [@manoftron](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/u/manoftron)
#### Post date: [June 24, 2016, 11:00pm UTC](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/all-the-stable-experimentals-are-gone/12101/2 "2016-06-24T23:00:20Z")
Backing this up, all the Curses builds are gone while the Tiles builds remain.
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### Author:  [@Kadian](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/u/Kadian)
#### Post date: [June 25, 2016, 9:26am UTC](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/all-the-stable-experimentals-are-gone/12101/3 "2016-06-25T09:26:15Z")
The Linux builds seem to be fine though, it’s just the windows console experimentals which are missing.
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### Author:  [@onyx44](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/u/onyx44)
#### Post date: [June 25, 2016, 9:35am UTC](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/all-the-stable-experimentals-are-gone/12101/4 "2016-06-25T09:35:23Z")
I’m playing 0.C-5039 at the moment, seems stable enough. I’ve got windows x64 tiles builds 0.C-5039, 0.C-5053, 0.C-5054 liyng around if you want them.
[https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B5JWSI4lw\_nCNHdMX1Bra1hXWXM/view?usp=sharing](https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B5JWSI4lw_nCNHdMX1Bra1hXWXM/view?usp=sharing)
[https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B5JWSI4lw\_nCYXppV1dWMExEcHM/view?usp=sharing](https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B5JWSI4lw_nCYXppV1dWMExEcHM/view?usp=sharing)
[https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B5JWSI4lw\_nCc3FPWVpSQV96YTg/view?usp=sharing](https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B5JWSI4lw_nCc3FPWVpSQV96YTg/view?usp=sharing)
No Curses builds, sorry. I wonder if it’s possible to switch executables between different versions. Like taking older stable-ish exe and putting it into newer version, possibly editing JSONs a little and calling that a downgrade?
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### Author:  [@Kadian](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/u/Kadian)
#### Post date: [June 25, 2016, 12:39pm UTC](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/all-the-stable-experimentals-are-gone/12101/5 "2016-06-25T12:39:47Z")
I found the reason why the Curses Builds for Windows are gone. Apparently they don’t work anymore and were taken out for the time being.
Source:
[https://github.com/CleverRaven/Cataclysm-DDA/issues/17367](https://github.com/CleverRaven/Cataclysm-DDA/issues/17367)
and
[https://github.com/CleverRaven/Cataclysm-DDA/issues/17315](https://github.com/CleverRaven/Cataclysm-DDA/issues/17315)
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### Author:  [@kevin.granade](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/u/kevin.granade)
#### Post date: [June 27, 2016, 12:29am UTC](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/all-the-stable-experimentals-are-gone/12101/6 "2016-06-27T00:29:59Z")
The builds disappeared due to an unknown issue on the build server, but it’s resolved now.