# Aiming without target,is it possible?

**URL:** <https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/aiming-without-target-is-it-possible/17632>\
**Category:** The Bunker\
**Created:** [November 26, 2018, 11:15am UTC](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/aiming-without-target-is-it-possible/17632 "2018-11-26T11:15:19Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 8\
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**Author:** ![Delts](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/7993a0/32.png) [@Delts](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/u/Delts)\
**Post date:** [November 26, 2018, 11:15am UTC](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/aiming-without-target-is-it-possible/17632/1 "2018-11-26T11:15:19Z")

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today i have bad char who blow up himself on foot,because im targeting empty tile beside bandit.why im targeting empty tile not the bandit? Because i try to get area damage to his friends few tiles away…now my question is,can i aim to shot empty tile? Then next question where to find the guy who recommended by the old guard? Old guard say its on pump station, im already search 4 cities to find pump station and none…thats it :D. i still have a lot question tho but im already asking too much lol. (im pure newb here,on this game xD)

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**Author:** ![Eirenex](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/discourse.cataclysmdda.org/eirenex/32/2713_2.png) [@Eirenex](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/u/Eirenex)\
**Post date:** [November 26, 2018, 2:29pm UTC](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/aiming-without-target-is-it-possible/17632/2 "2018-11-26T14:29:59Z")

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Its sadly not possible at the moment. but throwing is one of the skills that retains good accuracy with high skill until a specific range if you need to remotely hit a nearby window for distraction, this might do it for you

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**Author:** ![Delts](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/7993a0/32.png) [@Delts](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/u/Delts)\
**Post date:** [November 26, 2018, 3:27pm UTC](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/aiming-without-target-is-it-possible/17632/3 "2018-11-26T15:27:21Z")

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Throwing is OP lol…what about the old guard?

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**Author:** ![Eirenex](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/discourse.cataclysmdda.org/eirenex/32/2713_2.png) [@Eirenex](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/u/Eirenex)\
**Post date:** [November 26, 2018, 3:29pm UTC](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/aiming-without-target-is-it-possible/17632/4 "2018-11-26T15:29:06Z")

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you might have to use capital M and make the old guards mission the current one, then you can see by accessing the map again, it will give you a red dot surely!

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**Author:** ![Treah](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/discourse.cataclysmdda.org/treah/32/194_2.png) [@Treah](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/u/Treah)\
**Post date:** [November 26, 2018, 4:02pm UTC](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/aiming-without-target-is-it-possible/17632/5 "2018-11-26T16:02:58Z")

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Do you gain skill by shooting at nothing?

EDIT: Never mind you do

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**Author:** ![Unawares](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/u/6de8d8/32.png) [@Unawares](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/u/Unawares)\
**Post date:** [November 27, 2018, 6:38am UTC](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/aiming-without-target-is-it-possible/17632/6 "2018-11-27T06:38:57Z")

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> [@Delts](#):
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> Throwing is OP lol…what about the old guard?

I keep reading that throwing is overpowered, but recently that doesn’t seem true. Someone nerfed it hard perhaps? I couldn’t train it beyond initial levels, it’s hard to find something that will give further experience. I wanted a bit of accuracy for throwing grenades etc.

Now, much later, I can finally wear my end game armor and throw stuff at something really nasty over and over to get a few percent towards another level. Very slowly. Meh

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**Author:** ![Delts](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/7993a0/32.png) [@Delts](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/u/Delts)\
**Post date:** [November 27, 2018, 6:55am UTC](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/aiming-without-target-is-it-possible/17632/7 "2018-11-27T06:55:22Z")

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Yeah its slow…im increasing my throwing skill by reading “diskolobus” if im not wrong it increase throwing into 3 and its far better than shooting launcher without target lol…btw my favorite thing is throwing active C4 into fungal bloom lol

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**Author:** ![Trigon](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/discourse.cataclysmdda.org/trigon/32/2668_2.png) [@Trigon](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/u/Trigon)\
**Post date:** [November 27, 2018, 6:46pm UTC](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/aiming-without-target-is-it-possible/17632/8 "2018-11-27T18:46:34Z")

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Throwing did recently receive some nerfs yes.