# Adding Hay Loft to Farm Barns
**URL:** https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/adding-hay-loft-to-farm-barns/9124
**Category:** The Drawing Board
**Created:** [March 12, 2015, 11:11pm UTC](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/adding-hay-loft-to-farm-barns/9124 "2015-03-12T23:11:04Z")
**Posts on this page:** 8
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### Author:  [@CosmicKobal](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/u/CosmicKobal)
#### Post date: [March 12, 2015, 11:11pm UTC](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/adding-hay-loft-to-farm-barns/9124/1 "2015-03-12T23:11:04Z")
I was pulling down Hay earlier and realized that If I pulled the ladder up with me and blocked the entrance with a couple bales, that this would be a pretty decent place to spend the night if SHTF. Now in my case, the hay loft doesn’t really look like one due to it being built above a 10x10 kennel used to raise chicks , etc. BUT, it would still be an effective hideout from zombies. too high for them to reach and enough room to make into a base.
thinking about the in game size of a barn, the hay loft would be about the size of one half of the ground floor of the barn.
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### Author:  [@John\_Candlebury](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/u/John_Candlebury)
#### Post date: [March 13, 2015, 12:18am UTC](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/adding-hay-loft-to-farm-barns/9124/2 "2015-03-13T00:18:34Z")
Sure, the problem is that we havent got the z levels for it.
Out of my mind, bell towers would also make pretty decent hideouts as well
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### Author:  [@KA101](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/u/KA101)
#### Post date: [March 13, 2015, 12:21am UTC](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/adding-hay-loft-to-farm-barns/9124/3 "2015-03-13T00:21:29Z")
[quote=“John Candlebury, post:2, topic:9124”]Sure, the problem is that we havent got the z levels for it.
Out of my mind, bell towers would also make pretty decent hideouts as well[/quote]
Yeah, bell towers would be a good addition. Apartments & offices would obviously go vertical as well, maybe attics and such for houses.
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### Author:  [@CosmicKobal](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/u/CosmicKobal)
#### Post date: [March 13, 2015, 12:26am UTC](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/adding-hay-loft-to-farm-barns/9124/4 "2015-03-13T00:26:48Z")
[quote=“John Candlebury, post:2, topic:9124”]Sure, the problem is that we havent got the z levels for it.
Out of my mind, bell towers would also make pretty decent hideouts as well[/quote]
And if you ever want a FUN way to end your character, just hit the bell with a sledgehammer… 😉 Be like ringing the dinner bell
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### Author:  [@Valpo](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/u/Valpo)
#### Post date: [March 13, 2015, 3:24pm UTC](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/adding-hay-loft-to-farm-barns/9124/5 "2015-03-13T15:24:23Z")
You can ring a church bell already i think-.
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### Author:  [@Zero](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/u/Zero)
#### Post date: [March 13, 2015, 3:26pm UTC](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/adding-hay-loft-to-farm-barns/9124/6 "2015-03-13T15:26:41Z")
There are church bell consoles at churches that ring church bells.
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### Author:  [@CosmicKobal](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/u/CosmicKobal)
#### Post date: [March 13, 2015, 10:15pm UTC](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/adding-hay-loft-to-farm-barns/9124/7 "2015-03-13T22:15:47Z")
well… ya learn something new every day…
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### Author:  [@Kryxx](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/u/Kryxx)
#### Post date: [March 14, 2015, 2:43am UTC](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/adding-hay-loft-to-farm-barns/9124/8 "2015-03-14T02:43:51Z")
> [@Zero](#):
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> There are church bell consoles at churches that ring church bells.
Been there. Did that. I had 6 full large quivers of wooden bolts and my new Pnuematic Bolt Driver. Wanted to level up my marksman and rifles. Worked quite well ;).
On a note of the Z levels going up. I just want to see what happens when they collapse ;). I tend to end up knocking down at least 2-3 buildings in a small town, for the nails and rocks.