Acid zombies

[Findulidas]

I think acid zombies are though zombies, an obstacle to traverse if you will. They arent something you cannot beat though, more like a nice peanut in the mix of the zombie candybowl.

[Hibou]

With melee characters they can be a pain, especially when you’re in a group of three or more zombies along with the acid. Staying mobile and away from the acid puddles is key and if there’s zombies in your way then that gets hard. At range, they are much easier to deal with, with the exception of some ranged attacks that can be counteracted by popping in and out of cover or moving around/through window frames.

[TheWumpus]

Personally I play without them. They’re not too difficult to deal with if you know what you’re doing, but they rapidly become very tedious. At least acid doesn’t destroy items anymore.

[deoxy]

Personally I play without them. They’re not too difficult to deal with if you know what you’re doing, but they rapidly become very tedious. At least acid doesn’t destroy items anymore.

The way it absolutely melted every kind of item in very short order was indeed ridiculous… but now, I think it’s a bit the other way. If you leave food lying submerged in acid strong enough to seriously damage your body in fairly short order, the food should be destroyed in fairly short order, for one example.

[pisskop]

Lol Im the only person who thinks high end acids are too weak now?

Acidic Zed is actually a threat period.

spitters are too inaccurate and Ive long since been able to cheese crowds of 4 of them

corrosives are certainly annoying but that acid_accurate attack is weak as sin and a good gun or close quarters will help out with that by the time you see them. If you arent rocking envio-prot gear by winter you havent been surviving?

[Pandromidal]

Corrosive Zombie feel kind of weak to me. I still think we need spitter hulks for late late zombie mutation.

[KiBoy]

Acid zombies are kinda meh and not too much of a threat.

Spitters… oh well, one on one they aren’t too much of a problem either. I usually try to bait them alone when they are in a small group.

Corrosive zombies on the other hand seem pretty rare for me. Don’t think I’ve ever met more than 1 or 2 on any give savefile.

But then, most of my survivors die pretty quickly.

And I didn’t know that smashing their corpses caused acid to splatter around. Good thing I always butcher.

[Coolthulhu]

Ranged acid zombies need their accuracy updated.
Their numbers were balanced before the change to trigonometry in projectile function. Now they miss wildly all the time.

Could be fixed either by giving zombies lower dispersion or by moving the normal distribution roll from player-specific code to the generic projectile code.

At the moment dispersion is essentially the miss roll. This is quite ugly, since it means every projectile needs to determine its hit/miss roll partially on the call site. Since shrapnel is no longer a projectile (only uses “hit by projectile” function), there is no real advantage to this approach.

[Ly1]

The issue I have with acid zombies is that they make certain items - particularly wetsuit boots - essential, especially for melee characters. Corrosive zombies in particular make late-game pure melee characters unviable without some form of acid immunity.

Also late game spawn rates of huge boomers and those toxic exploding zombies need to be toned down, moving through a decently sized town involves constant swarms of them, ruining visibility for a good portion of the time, and in a way that doesn’t really make things any more difficult, just more annoying.

[deoxy]

Also late game spawn rates of huge boomers and those toxic exploding zombies need to be toned down, moving through a decently sized town involves constant swarms of them, ruining visibility for a good portion of the time, and in a way that doesn’t really make things any more difficult, just more annoying.

SO MUCH THIS. They are completely challenge-less (they literally kill themselves), and if you can deal with the gas… well, yeah, annoyance and nothing more.

[Coolthulhu]

I have a bad idea for that
I have a great bad idea for that

Acid gas bloated zombies

[mugling]

[quote=“Coolthulhu, post:13, topic:12702”]Ranged acid zombies need their accuracy updated.
Their numbers were balanced before the change to trigonometry in projectile function. Now they miss wildly all the time.[/quote]

Can you open an issue for that?

[Noctifer]

[quote=“Coolthulhu, post:16, topic:12702”]I have a bad idea for that
I have a great bad idea for that

Acid gas bloated zombies

You just want the player base to suffer don’t you…

I personally feel acid zombies serve as a support role in multi-enemy fighting. In a horde you have to be careful not to get surrounded in the presence of acid zombies if you don’t want your legs gone mid fight. 1-on-1 they can prove fatal to the overconfident but easy enough for an ealry game character to kill them if careful.

[pisskop]

Acid gas doesnt even exist, relax.

Theres many, many worse things that do exist that it can 'xplode into though

[Mecares]

Acid gas doesnt even exist, relax.

Acid Fog could be possible

[SpadeDraco]

I find Spitters to be a bit obnoxious. They’re almost guaranteed damage until you get acidproof boots. Being pigeonholed into very specific gear to counter them is also rather unfun.

[Pandromidal]

I find Spitters to be a bit obnoxious. They’re almost guaranteed damage until you get acidproof boots. Being pigeonholed into very specific gear to counter them is also rather unfun.

There are acid proof boots?

[SpadeDraco]

There are acid proof boots?

Turn-out boots, rubber boots, certain survivor gear (which I disable). Nothing literally called “acid proof boots” though. Sorry if I wasn’t clear.

[Pandromidal]

Turn-out boots, rubber boots, certain survivor gear (which I disable). Nothing literally called “acid proof boots” though. Sorry if I wasn’t clear.

Turnout Boots: Acid 6 Environmental 8
Rubber Boots: Acid 9 Environmental 1
Survivor Fire/Wetsuit Boots: Acid 5 Environmental 10

Are any of those really enough to protect your feet? I think you’re going to have no legs pretty quick if you stand in acid with any of those.

[pisskop]

Acid is limited to 6 initial damage.

Im not sure how dangerous you think acid is. The acid damage adds up over time, which can be negated via envio prot.

Additionally, you may wear 2 layers of firefighters socks. And swimming booties offer some protection, I believe.

And additionally, the game factors in legs as well