Acid Corpses

[Labtop_215]

I also don’t know about taking a lot of time. Butchering a corpse only takes like 6 seconds in-game. Moving the corpse takes 6 seconds and is only necessarily if it’s sitting in acid and you don’t want to wait until the acid is gone.

[TheKobold]

Pretty sure butchering takes 5 minutes in game time.

[Azrad]

If you have two turnout trousers, as well as turnout boots, you can stand in acid without getting any leg damage. Survivor wetsuit plus survivor wetsuit boots work just as well. You still get warning messages, lots of warning messages while butchering the body while the acid is there, but you won’t get damaged.

In general, if acid protection for legs and feet is 6 or more, then you’ll be fine. You can melee corrosive zombies and the acid that spills out of them won’t damage your legs, while having no protection will break legs from full health if you’re frail/total hp less than 50-60.

Hulks take longer to butcher as well.

[Labtop_215]

Pretty sure butchering takes 5 minutes in game time.

I think you might be right now. Ah well, it’s still the fastest way to get rid of a corpse.

I miss when acid corpses used to dissolve items as well, as it was an easy way to get rid of junk and it made protecting your items an actually important thing to do.

Edit: Nope, it only takes me 2 minutes and 12 seconds. It might take longer to butcher bigger creatures though.

[TheKobold]

Mmm weird, was butchering piles of normal zeds today on the newest experimental and it took 5 minutes each. Maybe its related to skill or butchering quality. Or maybe I miss read the screen.

[Coolthulhu]

Depends on your best butchering tool, target size and your speed.
For regular zed, it’s 5 minutes with 0 butchering quality at 100 speed.

[Random_dragon]

[quote=“Coolthulhu, post:16, topic:11258”]Depends on your best butchering tool, target size and your speed.
For regular zed, it’s 5 minutes with 0 butchering quality at 100 speed.[/quote]

I didn’t think 0 butchering quality was technically attainable.

And I’m assuming this means a medium size creature?

[TacticalPteridactyl]

Anybody seen Fargo?

Quick! Somebody’s got to mod in a wood-chipper! You could mulch your garden if you want to, but I’m sure there are other uses…

[pisskop]

Just pulp them. Good old strength.

idk why youre quatering and cutting prime ribs from a zombie on the battlefield anyway. I didn’t realize that we were all combat surgeons

[Random_dragon]

Jack the Ripper liiives. ;w;

[TheKobold]

Smashing costs stamina, can’t waste it while you are in a protracted battle and want to make sure the corpses dont revive behind you while you’re fighting the hoard in front of you and the sun is getting low in the sky.

[pisskop]

What does stamina do again?

Beacuse in any melee ‘protracted battle’ youre not going to have stamina for long and afaik it only prevents running and penalizes skillrolls.

[Coolthulhu]

What does stamina do again?

Doubles time per melee attack at 0.

[TacticalPteridactyl]

Maybe for the ultra-skilled that’s fine, but fresh meat wouldn’t want to get caught in the open without stamina.

[pisskop]

meh? If youre unskilled you should be packing a way to escape and/or fight without fighting. straight fights are a losing battle for newbie characters.

-Smoke bombs are pretty good for that. Throw one out in front of you and run.
-Slings and bows will help soften things up for cheap. I think you can still fire unfletched arrows.
-bullwhips, tasers, etc, will even the odds and provide a chance to escape. Even robots get stunned by the mighty bullwhip.
-Though nerfed some, try using cocaine or other speed pumpers. Flee into the wind, or just around the critters.
-Fire. gdi fire is like the most underused device in the game, it feels like. For a new player, ducking into a building and lighting a fire on the way out will take care of many of your would-be pursuers.

And if all else fails your car can be used. A new player shouldnt be seeking situations where they face off against more than 6 or 7 critters at a time, and often less if they cant crowd control. night raids are a thing for a reason.

[TheKobold]

Eh for me, I’m not playing a new player any more, but i havent reached that point of killing everything with turrets yet, and i don’t use guns to much anyways because of the noise. I’ fine taking on several dozen Z’s as long as im marginally careful.

[TacticalPteridactyl]

Smoke bombs can not be used. No stamina means you can’t run. Keeping the car close, yes, is important, but it should be within the map-block if you have no stamina. Bows, slings, spears are no good unless you can kite your enemies, which can’t be done when you have no stamina. And yes, I do keep drugs on my person in case of emergency. Doesn’t change the fact that corpse disposal is tedious, time-consuming and/or dangerous. I’m getting into a habit of just leaving corpses behind, exception for special monsters: necro, brutes, shockers and acid. If I killed them once, I can probably handle them a second time. The problem is that risen zombies present an obstacle to driving. I see that as a pretty good argument for a vehicle-mounted wood corpse chipper.

[pisskop]

??? Why cant smoke bombs be used in the case of fleeing? I must have missed someting. And what on Earth did you do before running was a thing; back when Zmen were as fast as you? Every zombie was a running zombie.

Corpse disposal isnt supposed to be easy. Why on earth would you think it was? Theyre called undead for a reason.

There’s a few things I’d nitpick with, like the establishment a lore for what needs to be pulped in order to prevent revivification. From there it can be establish how much time/effort it would take.

Also, Im sure Ive mentioned this before, but Im awful sa about the current state of bombs in general. pipe bombs are largely worthless. molotovs have been nerfed into a gamble (which is more in line with their difficultly level. Too easy and their effect too good). matchhead bombs arent great. From there they start getting better, but meh.

[TacticalPteridactyl]

As I said, smoke can’t be used to cover your escape because you CAN NOT RUN. Ordinary zombies are faster than you in that state. Not only do you have to get through the smoke, but also into safety. Nevermind, of course, that it takes a certain amount of skill and supplies to craft them in the first place - by which point you’ve probably got better means of escape anyway. I reckon that they’re better used to block LOS to that shocker brute charging you down, so that you can engage as close-range with burst fire shotgun slugs.

Anyway, if you don’t think it’s a problem, fine, but I find that it’s a bit tedious trying to get rid of corpses after a large battle involving one or multiple hordes, and that some automation would serve to improve gameplay.

[pisskop]

Right. if you say so.

give it a try some time. I mean, are you actually suggesting that destroying your scent, not making noise, and breaking LoS doesnt work?