# A question to the "devs" and community

**URL:** <https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/a-question-to-the-devs-and-community/4902>\
**Category:** The Bunker\
**Created:** [January 29, 2014, 6:26pm UTC](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/a-question-to-the-devs-and-community/4902 "2014-01-29T18:26:37Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 13\
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**Author:** ![system](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/uploads/cataclysmdda/original/1X/21b5d044e8473b25d0bf905d60477e25f6fbe0cf.png) [@system](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/u/system)\
**Post date:** [January 30, 2014, 5:26pm UTC](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/a-question-to-the-devs-and-community/4902/41 "2014-01-30T17:26:19Z")

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> [@John Candlebury](#):
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> Why not call it “Alp” instead not only is it the old germanic word for elves, it also has far more morally grey connotations, the world literally meaning “ghostly one”.

That would work. It works because no one can connect it to Tolkien. Unless they do the research.

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**Author:** ![Sanarr](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/c77e96/32.png) [@Sanarr](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/u/Sanarr)\
**Post date:** [January 30, 2014, 7:08pm UTC](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/a-question-to-the-devs-and-community/4902/42 "2014-01-30T19:08:46Z")

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I personaly, think that whole “elf-a” issue is kind a… overreacted.

Yes, we have that mutation. It could have in-game explanation (scientist just named his/her genetic creation after mythology creature) or metagame explanation (contributor just wanted to create Tolkien-elf-like creature to have it in game). Either way - we have that mutation. Some people like it, some people hate it, some people doesnt care enough to quarrel about it (as I am). But that attitude might be placed in many aspects of game - drugs, furry stuff, balance issues etc. Like Bonevomit mentioned in "balance… " thread, this game is collective work of many people, who have a lot of different tastes, which might often be controversal. And, unless devs accept strict rules about what might and might not be added to game, we are bound to eternal arguing about content.

I suggest to take things as they come. If someone bothered himself enough to add elf-fairy-sylvan look mutation… well thanks to his/her effort. I might give it a try if I would like to play such a character. If I dont like something - I’ll just dont use it. Yes, devs might be more picky about what they are merging with core game to avoid some silly stuff but… imagine how it would slow down development process if every player suggested item would be discussed by the dev team (with possible arguing and so on). Maybe they will commence some “kill-it-with-fire” purges, when they will finish core issues.

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**Author:** ![Mr.Bananza](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/discourse.cataclysmdda.org/mr.bananza/32/6_2.png) [@Mr.Bananza](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/u/Mr.Bananza)\
**Post date:** [January 30, 2014, 7:37pm UTC](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/a-question-to-the-devs-and-community/4902/43 "2014-01-30T19:37:22Z")

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> [@ajwilli1](#):
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> Just because Elf is in the name doesn’t mean Tolkien fantasy. Also you’re over-reacting, just because one mutation is Elf, doesn’t mean Cata is turning into Skyrim.

On the contrary. The game is about the world ending and humanity as a whole being sucked into… oblivion…

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**Author:** ![Slax](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/discourse.cataclysmdda.org/slax/32/5385_2.png) [@Slax](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/u/Slax)\
**Post date:** [January 30, 2014, 8:30pm UTC](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/a-question-to-the-devs-and-community/4902/44 "2014-01-30T20:30:48Z")

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Man, I just want Z-levels. THAT’S fantasy.  
[size=6pt]Heheheheheheheheheheheheheh jokes.[/size]

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**Author:** ![KA101](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/278dde/32.png) [@KA101](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/u/KA101)\
**Post date:** [January 31, 2014, 5:37am UTC](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/a-question-to-the-devs-and-community/4902/45 "2014-01-31T05:37:33Z")

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[quote=“ChristopherWalken, post:27, topic:4902”]I’m asking because I don’t know what else Elf-A does.

As far as I understand it, they want mutations mostly for military purposes and they were definitely still experimenting and fooling around (as shown by the many negatives most mutations have).  
If Elf-A doesn’t have a military purpose why would the military research it?[/quote]

Desperation on the part of the lead researcher and his team: they needed solutions NOW DAMMIT. WE MAY NOT HAVE A MILITARY OR A FEDERAL GOVERNMENT IN TWO WEEKS. Woods seemed likely to provide shelter and sustenance, both from fruit and hunting. Purpose was “adapt folks for living after urban areas are no-go zones”. It failed.

Fantasy elves may be frail, but ain’t actively falling apart and radioactive to boot. 😉

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**Author:** ![Natures\_Witness](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/discourse.cataclysmdda.org/natures_witness/32/165_2.png) [@Natures\_Witness](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/u/Natures_Witness)\
**Post date:** [January 31, 2014, 2:48pm UTC](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/a-question-to-the-devs-and-community/4902/46 "2014-01-31T14:48:12Z")

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> [@ajwilli1](#):
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> Edit: Apparently Angels are Angles. Geometry is holy now.

This reminds me of an old sci-fi short story I read once, where due to a worn part in a celestial Linotype machine, this one guy keeps running into wierd stuff like worms with halos and little wings (angelworm as opposed to angleworm) a jug of lye that only contains a small Chinese coin (lei) and so on. He finally figures out the errors happen at the same time each day, and manages to get it fixed. Luckily, there’s a small town nearby called “Haveen”, so he goes to the town line, waits for the correct moment, and steps over it. So instead of entering “Haveen”, he ends up entering Heaven, showing up right in front of the Gates and nearly giving Saint Peter a heart attack. After yelling at them a bit for screwing up his life so much, he takes a look at their equipment and finds the worn-down part and replaces it (he works as a Linotype repairman). The story was absolutely hysterical, I think it was called “The Angelic Angleworm”.

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**Author:** ![Bonevomit](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/e9c0ed/32.png) [@Bonevomit](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/u/Bonevomit)\
**Post date:** [January 31, 2014, 4:50pm UTC](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/a-question-to-the-devs-and-community/4902/47 "2014-01-31T16:50:24Z")

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“It’s just a name! It’s not like you literally turn into an elf!”

> You are the tree under which humankind will shelter during these dark times.(ahead)

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**Author:** ![TheFlame52](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/discourse.cataclysmdda.org/theflame52/32/247_2.png) [@TheFlame52](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/u/TheFlame52)\
**Post date:** [January 31, 2014, 11:56pm UTC](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/a-question-to-the-devs-and-community/4902/48 "2014-01-31T23:56:30Z")

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A street sign near my house is misspelled “Wolfangel” instead of “Wolfangle”.

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**Author:** ![Protester](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/discourse.cataclysmdda.org/protester/32/39_2.png) [@Protester](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/u/Protester)\
**Post date:** [February 1, 2014, 12:21am UTC](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/a-question-to-the-devs-and-community/4902/49 "2014-02-01T00:21:29Z")

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[quote=“KA101, post:45, topic:4902”][quote=“ChristopherWalken, post:27, topic:4902”]I’m asking because I don’t know what else Elf-A does.

As far as I understand it, they want mutations mostly for military purposes and they were definitely still experimenting and fooling around (as shown by the many negatives most mutations have).  
If Elf-A doesn’t have a military purpose why would the military research it?[/quote]

Desperation on the part of the lead researcher and his team: they needed solutions NOW DAMMIT. WE MAY NOT HAVE A MILITARY OR A FEDERAL GOVERNMENT IN TWO WEEKS. Woods seemed likely to provide shelter and sustenance, both from fruit and hunting. Purpose was “adapt folks for living after urban areas are no-go zones”. It failed.

Fantasy elves may be frail, but ain’t actively falling apart and radioactive to boot. ;-)[/quote]

god knows why the scientists broke into rogue groups and started experimenting on “insect mutations”

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**Author:** ![dwarfkoala](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/discourse.cataclysmdda.org/dwarfkoala/32/9_2.png) [@dwarfkoala](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/u/dwarfkoala)\
**Post date:** [February 1, 2014, 2:18am UTC](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/a-question-to-the-devs-and-community/4902/50 "2014-02-01T02:18:07Z")

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I, for one, oppose anything to do with those tree-hugging, overtall, lava-intolerant bastards.

On a serious note, renaming it to nature is fine.

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**Author:** ![dwarfkoala](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/discourse.cataclysmdda.org/dwarfkoala/32/9_2.png) [@dwarfkoala](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/u/dwarfkoala)\
**Post date:** [February 2, 2014, 6:41am UTC](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/a-question-to-the-devs-and-community/4902/51 "2014-02-02T06:41:44Z")

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[http://smf.cataclysmdda.com/index.php?topic=5226.0](http://smf.cataclysmdda.com/index.php?topic=5226.0)

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**Author:** ![kevin.granade](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/discourse.cataclysmdda.org/kevin.granade/32/1316_2.png) [@kevin.granade](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/u/kevin.granade)\
**Post date:** [February 2, 2014, 8:30am UTC](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/a-question-to-the-devs-and-community/4902/52 "2014-02-02T08:30:17Z")

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Please don’t “advertise” threads in other threads, especially if they’re currently dead.

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**Author:** ![dwarfkoala](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/discourse.cataclysmdda.org/dwarfkoala/32/9_2.png) [@dwarfkoala](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/u/dwarfkoala)\
**Post date:** [February 2, 2014, 6:24pm UTC](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/a-question-to-the-devs-and-community/4902/53 "2014-02-02T18:24:51Z")

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Sorry.

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