# A question about Proficiency gain
**URL:** https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/a-question-about-proficiency-gain/25915
**Category:** The Bunker
**Created:** [February 14, 2021, 12:02am UTC](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/a-question-about-proficiency-gain/25915 "2021-02-14T00:02:46Z")
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### Author:  [@JENTHULHU](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/u/JENTHULHU)
#### Post date: [February 14, 2021, 12:02am UTC](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/a-question-about-proficiency-gain/25915/1 "2021-02-14T00:02:46Z")
So, I understand the base rules for how Proficiencies work, but I’m curious about the value/gain in proficiency progress.
Is it only time taken? Does skill requirement come into it? Do the materials involved count? What is the sweet spot to aim for to get a Proficiency most efficiently?
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### Author:  [@anothersimulacrum](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/u/anothersimulacrum)
#### Post date: [February 14, 2021, 1:22am UTC](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/a-question-about-proficiency-gain/25915/2 "2021-02-14T01:22:44Z")
Time taken (and some recipes can make recipes learn more or less for the time taken, but that’s quite rare).
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### Author:  [@JENTHULHU](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/u/JENTHULHU)
#### Post date: [February 14, 2021, 1:26am UTC](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/a-question-about-proficiency-gain/25915/3 "2021-02-14T01:26:20Z")
are there any lists of recipes that give more per time?
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### Author:  [@anothersimulacrum](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/u/anothersimulacrum)
#### Post date: [February 14, 2021, 3:08am UTC](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/a-question-about-proficiency-gain/25915/4 "2021-02-14T03:08:57Z")
No list exists, because no recipes of the like exist, only ones decreasing it.
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### Author:  [@GiggleGrassGatherer](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/u/GiggleGrassGatherer)
#### Post date: [February 14, 2021, 12:50pm UTC](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/a-question-about-proficiency-gain/25915/5 "2021-02-14T12:50:05Z")
> [@anothersimulacrum](#):
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> Time taken
oh, so I guess that’s why lockpicking prof on my old char doesn’t increase - she’s too good at the job so she’s picking locks so fast, time spent doing that is not enough for the proficiency to get even 0.1%.