# A new thing to make vehicles even more OPed!

**URL:** <https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/a-new-thing-to-make-vehicles-even-more-oped/4499>\
**Category:** The Drawing Board\
**Created:** [December 15, 2013, 1:14am UTC](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/a-new-thing-to-make-vehicles-even-more-oped/4499 "2013-12-15T01:14:34Z")\
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**Author:** ![EkarusRyndren](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/discourse.cataclysmdda.org/ekarusryndren/32/80_2.png) [@EkarusRyndren](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/u/EkarusRyndren)\
**Post date:** [December 15, 2013, 8:56pm UTC](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/a-new-thing-to-make-vehicles-even-more-oped/4499/21 "2013-12-15T20:56:42Z")

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[quote=“ChristopherWalken, post:20, topic:4499”]Well it lost a bit of its effect in the last couple versions (and then started getting better again with shock).

It’s just the natural progression of things.

Cars crush bikes.  
Semis crush cars.  
Huge trucks crush semis.  
Moving castles crush everything.[/quote]

And bikes crush smart cars, what’s your point? Because I’m pretty sure this is the way it should be.

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**Author:** ![ChristopherWalken](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/ecccb3/32.png) [@ChristopherWalken](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/u/ChristopherWalken)\
**Post date:** [December 15, 2013, 8:58pm UTC](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/a-new-thing-to-make-vehicles-even-more-oped/4499/22 "2013-12-15T20:58:43Z")

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Are you just trying to start trouble?  
You’re just trying to start trouble.

I know what you are.

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**Author:** ![FunsizeNinja123](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/discourse.cataclysmdda.org/funsizeninja123/32/118_2.png) [@FunsizeNinja123](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/u/FunsizeNinja123)\
**Post date:** [December 15, 2013, 9:03pm UTC](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/a-new-thing-to-make-vehicles-even-more-oped/4499/23 "2013-12-15T21:03:39Z")

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[quote=“ChristopherWalken, post:22, topic:4499”]Are you just trying to start trouble?  
You’re just trying to start trouble.

I know what you are.[/quote]

I can tell your easily aggroed or just being a very good troll…

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**Author:** ![ChristopherWalken](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/ecccb3/32.png) [@ChristopherWalken](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/u/ChristopherWalken)\
**Post date:** [December 15, 2013, 9:05pm UTC](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/a-new-thing-to-make-vehicles-even-more-oped/4499/24 "2013-12-15T21:05:24Z")

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You’re\*

I made a remark and he keeps making aggressive posts trying to get a rise out of me because I’m against his kind.  
I think it’s worth pointing out because he’s really bad at hiding it.

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**Author:** ![EkarusRyndren](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/discourse.cataclysmdda.org/ekarusryndren/32/80_2.png) [@EkarusRyndren](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/u/EkarusRyndren)\
**Post date:** [December 15, 2013, 9:11pm UTC](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/a-new-thing-to-make-vehicles-even-more-oped/4499/25 "2013-12-15T21:11:47Z")

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[quote=“ChristopherWalken, post:24, topic:4499”]You’re\*

I made a remark and he keeps making aggressive posts trying to get a rise out of me because I’m against his kind.  
I think it’s worth pointing out because he’s really bad at hiding it.[/quote]

Against my kind? You’ve made my day, I’m still laughing at that one. XD I wasn’t trying to anger you I was asking you if you thought larger vehicles shouldn’t be as damaged by smaller ones.

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**Author:** ![John\_Candlebury](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/discourse.cataclysmdda.org/john_candlebury/32/6437_2.png) [@John\_Candlebury](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/u/John_Candlebury)\
**Post date:** [December 15, 2013, 9:14pm UTC](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/a-new-thing-to-make-vehicles-even-more-oped/4499/26 "2013-12-15T21:14:27Z")

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So yo are telling me that if I crash my 50 ton reinforced glass fortress a bike both should take heavy damage, instead of just crushing the bike to scrap metal under my wheels?

Cause I’m pretty sure reality doesn’t work that way.

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**Author:** ![ChristopherWalken](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/ecccb3/32.png) [@ChristopherWalken](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/u/ChristopherWalken)\
**Post date:** [December 15, 2013, 9:16pm UTC](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/a-new-thing-to-make-vehicles-even-more-oped/4499/27 "2013-12-15T21:16:49Z")

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[quote=“John Candlebury, post:26, topic:4499”]So yo are telling me that if I crash my 50 ton reinforced glass fortress into a bike both should take heavy damage, instead of just crushing the bike to scrap metal under my wheels?

Cause I’m pretty sure reality doesn’t work that way.[/quote]

Is that directed at me? It’s not clear.  
If it is then you misunderstand me.  
I’m not saying it’s wrong, I’m just saying we might be going back to colossal vehicles simply rolling over buildings.

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**Author:** ![EkarusRyndren](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/discourse.cataclysmdda.org/ekarusryndren/32/80_2.png) [@EkarusRyndren](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/u/EkarusRyndren)\
**Post date:** [December 15, 2013, 9:17pm UTC](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/a-new-thing-to-make-vehicles-even-more-oped/4499/28 "2013-12-15T21:17:40Z")

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[quote=“John Candlebury, post:26, topic:4499”]So yo are telling me that if I crash my 50 ton reinforced glass fortress a bike both should take heavy damage, instead of just crushing the bike to scrap metal under my wheels?

Cause I’m pretty sure reality doesn’t work that way.[/quote]

Well maybe the glass part… and frankly your frame is on the depressing side from a structural integrity point but I do agree with you overall.

[quote=“ChristopherWalken, post:27, topic:4499”][quote=“John Candlebury, post:26, topic:4499”]So yo are telling me that if I crash my 50 ton reinforced glass fortress into a bike both should take heavy damage, instead of just crushing the bike to scrap metal under my wheels?

Cause I’m pretty sure reality doesn’t work that way.[/quote]

Is that directed at me? It’s not clear.  
If it is then you misunderstand me.  
I’m not saying it’s wrong, I’m just saying we might be going back to colossal vehicles simply rolling over buildings.[/quote]

Again, you’re acting like that never changed. Large ass vehicles should be able to “roll over buildings” Hell, I’ve seen cars plow through buildings. I don’t see what your problem is. Are you saying the game was better when clipping a bush would spontaneously cause all the headlights on the vehicle to explode? Because I have to strongly disagree.

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**Author:** ![GrizzlyAdamz](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/discourse.cataclysmdda.org/grizzlyadamz/32/8056_2.png) [@GrizzlyAdamz](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/u/GrizzlyAdamz)\
**Post date:** [December 15, 2013, 9:22pm UTC](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/a-new-thing-to-make-vehicles-even-more-oped/4499/29 "2013-12-15T21:22:46Z")

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Oi, walker, tone down the hate or you might have to hang out with lazycat.

Meanwhile EVERYONE needs to take a chill pill.

The hull idea soundslike it would fit right in.

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**Author:** ![EkarusRyndren](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/discourse.cataclysmdda.org/ekarusryndren/32/80_2.png) [@EkarusRyndren](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/u/EkarusRyndren)\
**Post date:** [December 15, 2013, 9:26pm UTC](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/a-new-thing-to-make-vehicles-even-more-oped/4499/30 "2013-12-15T21:26:41Z")

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[quote=“GrizzlyAdamz, post:29, topic:4499”]Oi, walker, tone down the hate or you might have to hang out with lazycat.

Meanwhile EVERYONE needs to take a chill pill.

The hull idea soundslike it would fit right in.[/quote]

Polarizing the hull wouldn’t do shit in CDDA, no lasers (well yet) to be deflected. The only other hull plating I remember in Star Trek was the deployed shit they used in the Voyager finale and that stuff was “Future” for them, which pretty much guarantees it wouldn’t be available in-game.

Then again a concept I could use off that is liquid armor. Think of it as PA for vehicles. Ferromagnetic particles suspended in a Non-Newtonian fluid that when an electrical current is applied it becomes hard, that said that might not be very useful in vehicles but rather as a far more flexible “powered” armor…

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**Author:** ![ChristopherWalken](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/ecccb3/32.png) [@ChristopherWalken](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/u/ChristopherWalken)\
**Post date:** [December 15, 2013, 9:27pm UTC](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/a-new-thing-to-make-vehicles-even-more-oped/4499/31 "2013-12-15T21:27:20Z")

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I feel the need to simplify what you are doing to explain it to you.

Me: "We are going back to X"  
Everyone: "Why do you hate X!?"  
Me: "I don’t hate X"  
Everyone: “STOP HATING X!”

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**Author:** ![GrizzlyAdamz](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/discourse.cataclysmdda.org/grizzlyadamz/32/8056_2.png) [@GrizzlyAdamz](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/u/GrizzlyAdamz)\
**Post date:** [December 15, 2013, 9:40pm UTC](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/a-new-thing-to-make-vehicles-even-more-oped/4499/32 "2013-12-15T21:40:22Z")

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Hence why Everyone needs that chill pill.

On-topic:  
Not the polarized hull, the “strengthened bonds” thing. Sounds outlandish enough to go with everything else, and I too prefer that over an energy shield.

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**Author:** ![John\_Candlebury](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/discourse.cataclysmdda.org/john_candlebury/32/6437_2.png) [@John\_Candlebury](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/u/John_Candlebury)\
**Post date:** [December 15, 2013, 9:50pm UTC](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/a-new-thing-to-make-vehicles-even-more-oped/4499/33 "2013-12-15T21:50:57Z")

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What about actually covering the surface of your vehicle with a teleporter screen thats linked to somewhere in other dimension or high in earths atmosphere, so instead of actually colliding with stuff you just portal cut the surfaces that come in “contact” with it. This possibly adheres to the lore and could allow for your interdimensional friends to visit.

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**Author:** ![EkarusRyndren](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/discourse.cataclysmdda.org/ekarusryndren/32/80_2.png) [@EkarusRyndren](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/u/EkarusRyndren)\
**Post date:** [December 15, 2013, 9:56pm UTC](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/a-new-thing-to-make-vehicles-even-more-oped/4499/34 "2013-12-15T21:56:14Z")

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> [@John Candlebury](#):
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> What about actually covering the surface of your vehicle with a teleporter screen thats linked to somewhere in other dimension or high in earths atmosphere, so instead of actually colliding with stuff you just portal cut the surfaces that come in “contact” with it. This possibly adheres to the lore and could allow for your interdimensional friends to visit.

No. XD

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**Author:** ![kevin.granade](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/discourse.cataclysmdda.org/kevin.granade/32/1316_2.png) [@kevin.granade](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/u/kevin.granade)\
**Post date:** [December 15, 2013, 9:57pm UTC](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/a-new-thing-to-make-vehicles-even-more-oped/4499/35 "2013-12-15T21:57:01Z")

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> [@ChristopherWalken](#):
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> I know what you are.

[quote=“ChristopherWalken, post:24, topic:4499”]I made a remark and he keeps making aggressive posts trying to get a rise out of me because I’m against his kind.  
I think it’s worth pointing out because he’s really bad at hiding it.[/quote]

1. This very much looks like a simple misunderstanding.
2. “I know what you are.” and “I’m against his kind” are out of line.  
Keep a lid on your whatever-hate in this forum.

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**Author:** ![Natures\_Witness](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/discourse.cataclysmdda.org/natures_witness/32/165_2.png) [@Natures\_Witness](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/u/Natures_Witness)\
**Post date:** [December 16, 2013, 2:19am UTC](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/a-new-thing-to-make-vehicles-even-more-oped/4499/36 "2013-12-16T02:19:11Z")

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rushes in with fire extinguisher

[Why can’t we be friends?](http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=tKTl1XScwd0&desktop_uri=%2Fwatch%3Fv%3DtKTl1XScwd0)

That is all.

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**Author:** ![infectedmochi](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/discourse.cataclysmdda.org/infectedmochi/32/206_2.png) [@infectedmochi](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/u/infectedmochi)\
**Post date:** [December 16, 2013, 2:58am UTC](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/a-new-thing-to-make-vehicles-even-more-oped/4499/37 "2013-12-16T02:58:08Z")

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Given the future scenario in which Cataclysm takes place, I think magnetic shield wouldn’t be far off, maybe give it some trade-offs like costing lots of batteries or just plain heavier.  
The portal shield sounds interesting too, basically the shield would active and deactivate thousand times per second, cutting the colliding objects into many thin pieces.

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**Author:** ![dwarfkoala](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/discourse.cataclysmdda.org/dwarfkoala/32/9_2.png) [@dwarfkoala](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/u/dwarfkoala)\
**Post date:** [December 16, 2013, 3:29am UTC](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/a-new-thing-to-make-vehicles-even-more-oped/4499/38 "2013-12-16T03:29:07Z")

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And remember, if we have portals then we should have nasties too 🙂

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**Author:** ![GrizzlyAdamz](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/discourse.cataclysmdda.org/grizzlyadamz/32/8056_2.png) [@GrizzlyAdamz](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/u/GrizzlyAdamz)\
**Post date:** [December 16, 2013, 5:05am UTC](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/a-new-thing-to-make-vehicles-even-more-oped/4499/39 "2013-12-16T05:05:52Z")

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Heh, that sounded kinda far-fetched, but as a mind exercise:

How much power does a bionic teleporter cost each time it’s used?

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**Author:** ![KA101](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/278dde/32.png) [@KA101](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/u/KA101)\
**Post date:** [December 16, 2013, 5:34am UTC](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/a-new-thing-to-make-vehicles-even-more-oped/4499/40 "2013-12-16T05:34:54Z")

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[quote=“GrizzlyAdamz, post:39, topic:4499”]Heh, that sounded kinda far-fetched, but as a mind exercise:

How much power does a bionic teleporter cost each time it’s used?[/quote]

Looks like 10 bionic power. Typical bionic power storage is 4; that’s about 8 hunger worth from MI or a few branches.

Thanks for asking; saw something in the code that’ll come in handy.

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