# \[5d24962\] Crashes when exploring map, savegame provided

**URL:** <https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/5d24962-crashes-when-exploring-map-savegame-provided/8434>\
**Category:** The Garage\
**Created:** [December 26, 2014, 2:25pm UTC](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/5d24962-crashes-when-exploring-map-savegame-provided/8434 "2014-12-26T14:25:51Z")\
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**Author:** ![Cerbis](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/fbc32d/32.png) [@Cerbis](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/u/Cerbis)\
**Post date:** [December 26, 2014, 2:25pm UTC](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/5d24962-crashes-when-exploring-map-savegame-provided/8434/1 "2014-12-26T14:25:51Z")

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First, some background: I’ve been having crashes in the game when using a save from eb049ca in later versions. It crashes at least from 9a30e07 and forward, not sure about interim builds.  
No matter the build I tried and what I did to the savegame (removing .map files to have the game recreate the maps, waiting for any raw pelts and tainted meat I may have left around to rot away) it kept crashing when moving around the map.

I finally gave up and made a new game, with a new character and a new world in 5d24962, which also crashes when moving further into a town. This happens even after all NPCs have been killed via debug menu.  
The savegame can be found here; move northwest towards the grocery store and the game will crash just north past the gun shop. [https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B3AL9f2YbVzhenNFdVozY3V5ajQ/view?usp=sharing](https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B3AL9f2YbVzhenNFdVozY3V5ajQ/view?usp=sharing)

Here is another save that crashes in ca14431 and later, which seems like it could be related. Exit the shelter and go directly north and you’ll run into the crash. [https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B3AL9f2YbVzhSUVsRTQ4MzBPQ2M/view?usp=sharing](https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B3AL9f2YbVzhSUVsRTQ4MzBPQ2M/view?usp=sharing)

Both saves use a simple mod for 75% speed zombies that you can find here. [https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B3AL9f2YbVzhaGlpQVRHdXA1M28/view?usp=sharing](https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B3AL9f2YbVzhaGlpQVRHdXA1M28/view?usp=sharing)

I’m using the builds from [http://dev.narc.ro/cataclysm/jenkins-latest/Windows/Tiles/](http://dev.narc.ro/cataclysm/jenkins-latest/Windows/Tiles/)

eb049ca did not exhibit any of these issues, to my knowledge. I had a developer friend take a look at it, and his fresh (5d24962 and later) Linux curses builds of the game also crash at the same points the Jenkins Windows builds do, with the same savegames.

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**Author:** ![KA101](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/278dde/32.png) [@KA101](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/u/KA101)\
**Post date:** [December 26, 2014, 11:45pm UTC](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/5d24962-crashes-when-exploring-map-savegame-provided/8434/2 "2014-12-26T23:45:00Z")

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Thanks for reporting.

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**Author:** ![Snarlokk](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/discourse.cataclysmdda.org/snarlokk/32/408_2.png) [@Snarlokk](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/u/Snarlokk)\
**Post date:** [December 27, 2014, 2:19am UTC](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/5d24962-crashes-when-exploring-map-savegame-provided/8434/3 "2014-12-27T02:19:28Z")

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I’ve had an identical problem, though I can’t offer proof it’s caused by the same bug, it doesn’t happen immediately, usually after a few days and in my experience it tends to occur with revisiting sections of the map you have explored before but since moved far enough from for them to be removed from the ‘reality bubble’. I have a suspicion that it’s something to do with the game trying to backdate rotting once things are reloaded but that’s merely a guess.

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**Author:** ![Florin](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/91b2a8/32.png) [@Florin](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/u/Florin)\
**Post date:** [December 27, 2014, 3:12am UTC](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/5d24962-crashes-when-exploring-map-savegame-provided/8434/4 "2014-12-27T03:12:31Z")

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I’m having the same issue with every game I start - with or without NPCs, no hordes, etc. It’s made the game more or less unplayable, as after a while I can no longer re-enter areas I’ve previously been in.

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**Author:** ![kevin.granade](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/discourse.cataclysmdda.org/kevin.granade/32/1316_2.png) [@kevin.granade](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/u/kevin.granade)\
**Post date:** [December 27, 2014, 5:58am UTC](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/5d24962-crashes-when-exploring-map-savegame-provided/8434/5 "2014-12-27T05:58:49Z")

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Quick update, I was able to spend some time looking into this finally, and it does look like there’s a bug in the rot handling code.  
It’s bypassing the code I set up to keep track of active items, so when one rots, it’s still trying to procss it. If this is the issue you all are seeing, I should have a fix for you soon.

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**Author:** ![Cerbis](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/fbc32d/32.png) [@Cerbis](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/u/Cerbis)\
**Post date:** [December 27, 2014, 10:02am UTC](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/5d24962-crashes-when-exploring-map-savegame-provided/8434/6 "2014-12-27T10:02:47Z")

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Thank you very much! 🙂

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**Author:** ![Fengferth](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/discourse.cataclysmdda.org/fengferth/32/25_2.png) [@Fengferth](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/u/Fengferth)\
**Post date:** [December 27, 2014, 10:49am UTC](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/5d24962-crashes-when-exploring-map-savegame-provided/8434/7 "2014-12-27T10:49:39Z")

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Sweet, Thanks Kevin

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**Author:** ![Jakers](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/3ab097/32.png) [@Jakers](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/u/Jakers)\
**Post date:** [December 27, 2014, 1:56pm UTC](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/5d24962-crashes-when-exploring-map-savegame-provided/8434/8 "2014-12-27T13:56:40Z")

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Thank goodness you managed to spot that one! I was wondering why it crashed whenever I stumbled upon a place like a FEMA camp or a mall, good job for pointing that one out.

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**Author:** ![Reload2Unload](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/50afbb/32.png) [@Reload2Unload](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/u/Reload2Unload)\
**Post date:** [December 28, 2014, 11:36am UTC](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/5d24962-crashes-when-exploring-map-savegame-provided/8434/9 "2014-12-28T11:36:34Z")

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Question,  
Is this bug fixed? i’m no expert player but if have lost 4 charc because they couldn’t move because then the game would crash ☹ so many cbms lost

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**Author:** ![Fengferth](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/discourse.cataclysmdda.org/fengferth/32/25_2.png) [@Fengferth](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/u/Fengferth)\
**Post date:** [December 28, 2014, 1:08pm UTC](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/5d24962-crashes-when-exploring-map-savegame-provided/8434/10 "2014-12-28T13:08:06Z")

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Been able to play the latest experimental for a solid 3 hours without crash yet. Thanks for the fix Kevin.

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**Author:** ![Jakers](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/3ab097/32.png) [@Jakers](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/u/Jakers)\
**Post date:** [December 28, 2014, 1:47pm UTC](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/5d24962-crashes-when-exploring-map-savegame-provided/8434/11 "2014-12-28T13:47:32Z")

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Yep it’s fixed. Good job, can’t thank the guys who helped fix this enough for saving my best character.

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**Author:** ![Reload2Unload](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/50afbb/32.png) [@Reload2Unload](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/u/Reload2Unload)\
**Post date:** [December 28, 2014, 2:49pm UTC](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/5d24962-crashes-when-exploring-map-savegame-provided/8434/12 "2014-12-28T14:49:08Z")

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Nice on to raiding towns tweaking cars and killing zombies 😃

thx for the fix:D:D

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**Author:** ![kevin.granade](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/discourse.cataclysmdda.org/kevin.granade/32/1316_2.png) [@kevin.granade](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/u/kevin.granade)\
**Post date:** [December 28, 2014, 8:10pm UTC](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/5d24962-crashes-when-exploring-map-savegame-provided/8434/13 "2014-12-28T20:10:09Z")

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you’re welcome, sorry the fix was delayed by holidays.  
Also narc has been working on some semi related fixes.  
There was no savegame corruption, so any saves you were stuck at should be ok to play now.

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**Author:** ![Zipo](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/z/fbc32d/32.png) [@Zipo](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/u/Zipo)\
**Post date:** [December 29, 2014, 4:06am UTC](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/5d24962-crashes-when-exploring-map-savegame-provided/8434/14 "2014-12-29T04:06:02Z")

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Yeah my previous save where this was a problem works fine now. Thanks! 😃