# 03ed82b - Survival knife isn't considered a knife when sheating it
**URL:** https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/03ed82b-survival-knife-isnt-considered-a-knife-when-sheating-it/10566
**Category:** The Garage
**Created:** [September 20, 2015, 4:42pm UTC](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/03ed82b-survival-knife-isnt-considered-a-knife-when-sheating-it/10566 "2015-09-20T16:42:56Z")
**Posts on this page:** 6
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### Author:  [@Vronkio](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/u/Vronkio)
#### Post date: [September 20, 2015, 4:42pm UTC](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/03ed82b-survival-knife-isnt-considered-a-knife-when-sheating-it/10566/1 "2015-09-20T16:42:56Z")
At least not in boots in my experience. Working as intended or overlook?
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### Author:  [@Coolthulhu](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/u/Coolthulhu)
#### Post date: [September 20, 2015, 5:10pm UTC](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/03ed82b-survival-knife-isnt-considered-a-knife-when-sheating-it/10566/2 "2015-09-20T17:10:09Z")
Intentional. It’s too big to fit in a boot.
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### Author:  [@Xfin](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/u/Xfin)
#### Post date: [September 20, 2015, 5:17pm UTC](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/03ed82b-survival-knife-isnt-considered-a-knife-when-sheating-it/10566/3 "2015-09-20T17:17:15Z")
heres surprised there isn’t a properties for the size knife can hold on that note… also surprised on how out of the way the quiver flag is handled also
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### Author:  [@Random\_dragon](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/u/Random_dragon)
#### Post date: [September 20, 2015, 5:35pm UTC](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/03ed82b-survival-knife-isnt-considered-a-knife-when-sheating-it/10566/4 "2015-09-20T17:35:18Z")
Also of note, whose bloody idea was it to make the tanto count as a SWORD instead of just shaving a point of volume off it?
The survival knife is implied to be one of those big ugly “Bowie knife on steroids” knives so it makes sense, but it seems weird that a tanto is bigger than a more sensible, presumably KA-BAR-style combat knife.
On a related note, they should’ve updated the survival knife’s description to mention that it’s too big for normal sheathes. Since this thread is far newer than the PR that changed this, AND newer than that issue on Github believing the survival knife knife was a bug, this is an example of inadequate in-game documentation.
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### Author:  [@Vronkio](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/u/Vronkio)
#### Post date: [September 20, 2015, 11:08pm UTC](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/03ed82b-survival-knife-isnt-considered-a-knife-when-sheating-it/10566/5 "2015-09-20T23:08:46Z")
I also sugest changing the message from “This item isn’t a knife” to “This items is too big” as it is kind of confusing.
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### Author:  [@Random\_dragon](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/u/Random_dragon)
#### Post date: [September 20, 2015, 11:12pm UTC](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/03ed82b-survival-knife-isnt-considered-a-knife-when-sheating-it/10566/6 "2015-09-20T23:12:29Z")
I’m working on a PR to make the description warn the player about this feature, alongside other changes.
EDIT: [https://github.com/CleverRaven/Cataclysm-DDA/pull/13614](https://github.com/CleverRaven/Cataclysm-DDA/pull/13614)