# The Bunker **URL:** https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/c/game-talk/the-bunker/6.md?page=69 [Latest](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/latest.md) · [Categories](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/categories.md) · [Tags](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/tags.md) **Page:** 70 --- ## [What is the difference between a welder and a acetylene torch?](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/what-is-the-difference-between-a-welder-and-a-acetylene-torch/14921)
**Author:** [@redxlaser15](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/u/redxlaser15)\ **Replies:** 6\ **Last updated:** [February 6, 2018, 3:02pm UTC](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/what-is-the-difference-between-a-welder-and-a-acetylene-torch/14921 "2018-02-06T15:02:18Z")
Just what is says on the tin. I don’t really know what the use is of having both in the game, since as far as I know they do the same exact thing. --- ## [Is the sawn off shotgun still ingame](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/is-the-sawn-off-shotgun-still-ingame/14272)
**Author:** [@caffeineisgood22](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/u/caffeineisgood22)\ **Replies:** 8\ **Last updated:** [February 5, 2018, 9:49pm UTC](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/is-the-sawn-off-shotgun-still-ingame/14272 "2018-02-05T21:49:44Z")
Hi sorry to create another account, was having problems with email or something. So I’ve been having a great game (thanks to everyone that has worked on this), but looking at the wiki and based on previous games I’ve be… --- ## [Irradiated Wanderers. Spawn density in the vault in particular](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/irradiated-wanderers-spawn-density-in-the-vault-in-particular/13949)
**Author:** [@Tamior](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/u/Tamior)\ **Replies:** 18\ **Last updated:** [February 5, 2018, 4:02pm UTC](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/irradiated-wanderers-spawn-density-in-the-vault-in-particular/13949 "2018-02-05T16:02:12Z")
Finally decided to check out the vault in my 0.C-6513 game (with 0.01 item spawning rate and 2.00 Z’s spawn rate). By now I’m somewhere at level 2 of the actual vault, and the kill counter of Irradiated Wanderers is 120… --- ## [Wraitheon infantry - what a heck is it?](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/wraitheon-infantry-what-a-heck-is-it/14892)
**Author:** [@vivat](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/u/vivat)\ **Replies:** 6\ **Last updated:** [February 2, 2018, 7:14pm UTC](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/wraitheon-infantry-what-a-heck-is-it/14892 "2018-02-02T19:14:54Z")
it is a bloody monsters. radiated wanderers is a shitty lamers versus them. it’s like Hulk. yes W11 not throw me to long flight… but i do not know how they kill me. i sometimes try to fight them hand-to-hand and die. … --- ## [Surviving with Hordes](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/surviving-with-hordes/11545)
**Author:** [@bahihs](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/u/bahihs)\ **Replies:** 43\ **Last updated:** [February 5, 2018, 3:31pm UTC](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/surviving-with-hordes/11545 "2018-02-05T15:31:29Z")
So what are some strategies for playing with (and surviving hordes)? Random NPC’s + Hordes are usually a disaster waiting to happen as a single gunshot will spell doom for everyone and you can’t always recruit NPC’s. Mo… --- ## [Do not let the energy crisis ! :)](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/do-not-let-the-energy-crisis/7080)
**Author:** [@vivat](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/u/vivat)\ **Replies:** 9\ **Last updated:** [February 5, 2018, 11:18am UTC](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/do-not-let-the-energy-crisis/7080 "2018-02-05T11:18:44Z")
And anyone thinking about a stable renewable energy in the game? Well, we searched the nearest gas station, burned all extracted from the gas station gasoline. and then what? well - we searched ALL gas stations in the … --- ## [Goodbye to OP shopping carts](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/goodbye-to-op-shopping-carts/14851)
**Author:** [@Mantar](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/u/Mantar)\ **Replies:** 33\ **Last updated:** [February 4, 2018, 11:38pm UTC](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/goodbye-to-op-shopping-carts/14851 "2018-02-04T23:38:34Z")
Welp, it’s happened. As of #7069, shopping carts are no longer boardable. No more can you climb into a cart and be this guy: Immune to Acid No longer can I push my wounded companion into a shopping cart for a quick getaway, either. H… --- ## [Last stable from 2015?](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/last-stable-from-2015/14722)
**Author:** [@Frombie](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/u/Frombie)\ **Replies:** 6\ **Last updated:** [February 2, 2018, 2:57am UTC](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/last-stable-from-2015/14722 "2018-02-02T02:57:21Z")
Hi all, I’m back after many years without DDA (unbelievable, isn’t ist?) and i tried to find a stable version of the game like the one I played once before. I found many experimentals, but only a stable version from ma… --- ## [How to intentionally induce bleeding? (Or to get Blood Soaked Rags?) (Arcana Mod)](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/how-to-intentionally-induce-bleeding-or-to-get-blood-soaked-rags-arcana-mod/14884)
**Author:** [@psyxypher](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/u/psyxypher)\ **Replies:** 22\ **Last updated:** [January 31, 2018, 5:20pm UTC](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/how-to-intentionally-induce-bleeding-or-to-get-blood-soaked-rags-arcana-mod/14884 "2018-01-31T17:20:50Z")
I need to get myself to bleeding in a safe and controlled way. I’ve tried stepping onto bear traps, but my DEX and Trapping Skill are way too high to set them off and I highly doubt I’d survive stepping on a Landmine. Mo… --- ## [Which magasine i need? (4.6 caliber conversion kit)](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/which-magasine-i-need-4-6-caliber-conversion-kit/14890)
**Author:** [@vivat](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/u/vivat)\ **Replies:** 3\ **Last updated:** [January 31, 2018, 1:28pm UTC](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/which-magasine-i-need-4-6-caliber-conversion-kit/14890 "2018-01-31T13:28:35Z")
Hi! before i not experimented this way but now i said myself “pourque paix?” after finding this item (err i mean 4.6 caliber conversion kit) in the gunshop. after that i take first found pistol - it is Glock17 from the… --- ## [When will my bones FINALLY heal?](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/when-will-my-bones-finally-heal/14873)
**Author:** [@redxlaser15](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/u/redxlaser15)\ **Replies:** 20\ **Last updated:** [January 30, 2018, 8:22pm UTC](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/when-will-my-bones-finally-heal/14873 "2018-01-30T20:22:41Z")
\-I understand the game says your bones(s) will heal slowly, and IRL it can take a really long time, but I made a splint and put it on almost immediately and it’s been over three in-game days and I have yet to be better. :… --- ## [How do you cut down those tree trunks for planks and stuff?](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/how-do-you-cut-down-those-tree-trunks-for-planks-and-stuff/14872)
**Author:** [@redxlaser15](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/u/redxlaser15)\ **Replies:** 4\ **Last updated:** [January 29, 2018, 4:21pm UTC](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/how-do-you-cut-down-those-tree-trunks-for-planks-and-stuff/14872 "2018-01-29T16:21:05Z")
I have a wood axe and a toolbox, what do I do about it exactly? All I wanna do is get more planks! :sob: --- ## [What skills depend on bionic removing?](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/what-skills-depend-on-bionic-removing/14868)
**Author:** [@redxlaser15](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/u/redxlaser15)\ **Replies:** 2\ **Last updated:** [January 28, 2018, 11:44pm UTC](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/what-skills-depend-on-bionic-removing/14868 "2018-01-28T23:44:20Z")
I imagine first aid matters, since you are cutting directly into your flesh after all, maybe computers too? In any case, I’d prefer to know which things to focus on training since I want to get rid of my Leaky Bionic ASA… --- ## [Is this "Secret Cabin" supposed to be like this?](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/is-this-secret-cabin-supposed-to-be-like-this/14867)
**Author:** [@psyxypher](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/u/psyxypher)\ **Replies:** 2\ **Last updated:** [January 28, 2018, 6:22am UTC](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/is-this-secret-cabin-supposed-to-be-like-this/14867 "2018-01-28T06:22:27Z")
\[image\] Doing the Cult Questline, and clearly this cabin is unfinished. I’m either just unable to find the stairway, or I’m royally screwed. EDIT: I did do some searching around the house. Tried prying the windows and … --- ## [When does radiation get 'bad'](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/when-does-radiation-get-bad/14862)
**Author:** [@redxlaser15](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/u/redxlaser15)\ **Replies:** 9\ **Last updated:** [January 28, 2018, 5:12am UTC](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/when-does-radiation-get-bad/14862 "2018-01-28T05:12:05Z")
Hmm, so an enemy irradiated me, and I wanna know how many points of radiated is when it starts to have really nasty effects. I’m currently at \[9\] EDIT: Great, now I’m at radiation \[15\] I have some seemingly mild effects… --- ## [Fireplace: as firewood long burns](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/fireplace-as-firewood-long-burns/14852)
**Author:** [@vivat](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/u/vivat)\ **Replies:** 4\ **Last updated:** [January 27, 2018, 3:45pm UTC](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/fireplace-as-firewood-long-burns/14852 "2018-01-27T15:45:23Z")
Hi! Fireplace… the longer you use him - the more often it is necessary to fill him. if right after construction of a fireplace to load a log into it - the log will long burn. now the log burns down in 5 hours. I live… --- ## [What is this 'debug mode' that you speak of?](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/what-is-this-debug-mode-that-you-speak-of/14859)
**Author:** [@redxlaser15](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/u/redxlaser15)\ **Replies:** 2\ **Last updated:** [January 26, 2018, 10:43pm UTC](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/what-is-this-debug-mode-that-you-speak-of/14859 "2018-01-26T22:43:36Z")
Well, mostly what I wonder is how to get to it, although even then I have no clue how it all works. --- ## [Martial arts books](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/martial-arts-books/14855)
**Author:** [@Dlight\_full](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/u/Dlight_full)\ **Replies:** 9\ **Last updated:** [January 26, 2018, 10:21pm UTC](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/martial-arts-books/14855 "2018-01-26T22:21:34Z")
What is the situation with MA books nowadays? What books can be found ingame and where? I’m mostly interested in The Dragon Style and Zui Quan MA. Is it even possible to find the books for those arts? --- ## [Wood chopping and wood sawing questions](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/wood-chopping-and-wood-sawing-questions/14849)
**Author:** [@NuG](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/u/NuG)\ **Replies:** 2\ **Last updated:** [January 25, 2018, 4:32pm UTC](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/wood-chopping-and-wood-sawing-questions/14849 "2018-01-25T16:32:49Z")
Does using wood chopping of 2 give you less two by fours or logs than if you actually use wood sawing? Arew wood chopping 1 and wood sawing 1 used for anything? Is splintered wood a byproduct of making two by fours? --- ## [What is the 'best' way to get to the charcoal kiln and its ilk for charcoal?](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/what-is-the-best-way-to-get-to-the-charcoal-kiln-and-its-ilk-for-charcoal/14837)
**Author:** [@redxlaser15](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/u/redxlaser15)\ **Replies:** 14\ **Last updated:** [January 25, 2018, 2:17am UTC](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/what-is-the-best-way-to-get-to-the-charcoal-kiln-and-its-ilk-for-charcoal/14837 "2018-01-25T02:17:41Z")
Just as it says on the tin. Sure, I made the charcoal kiln and can constantly produce it now, but it took so long and I wonder if there is better and faster way for it. --- ## [Anyway to force the Ranch Quest to guide me to pre-selected location?](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/anyway-to-force-the-ranch-quest-to-guide-me-to-pre-selected-location/14833)
**Author:** [@psyxypher](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/u/psyxypher)\ **Replies:** 1\ **Last updated:** [January 23, 2018, 2:15pm UTC](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/anyway-to-force-the-ranch-quest-to-guide-me-to-pre-selected-location/14833 "2018-01-23T14:15:20Z")
Currently, the game wants me to travel across acres of forest to reach the Tacoma Commune, when there’s a Ranch real close by. No matter how often I reset, it won’t go to this other ranch, despite the fact I’ve never set… --- ## [Stone forge, charcoal kiln and clay kiln - do they create smoke?](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/stone-forge-charcoal-kiln-and-clay-kiln-do-they-create-smoke/14809)
**Author:** [@Viik](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/u/Viik)\ **Replies:** 25\ **Last updated:** [January 22, 2018, 1:46pm UTC](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/stone-forge-charcoal-kiln-and-clay-kiln-do-they-create-smoke/14809 "2018-01-22T13:46:52Z")
I’ve just finished walls of and roof of small 5x5 log cabin in wilderness scenario. Planning to setup all I need for metalworking. I would really prefer to have stone forge, charcoal kiln (furniture type) and clay kiln i… --- ## [What is the 'best' mutation tree?](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/what-is-the-best-mutation-tree/14779)
**Author:** [@redxlaser15](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/u/redxlaser15)\ **Replies:** 38\ **Last updated:** [January 22, 2018, 1:08am UTC](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/what-is-the-best-mutation-tree/14779 "2018-01-22T01:08:26Z")
Just as it says on the tin. I was thinking about the plant mutation tree (no pun intended) since I like nature IRL. Then I can do the irony of my lumber jack character being a tree! I think that’s focused around being a … --- ## [I felt like I should share the fact I found a Bandit with this name](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/i-felt-like-i-should-share-the-fact-i-found-a-bandit-with-this-name/14829)
**Author:** [@psyxypher](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/u/psyxypher)\ **Replies:** 1\ **Last updated:** [January 21, 2018, 9:47am UTC](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/i-felt-like-i-should-share-the-fact-i-found-a-bandit-with-this-name/14829 "2018-01-21T09:47:05Z")
\[image\] Wonder if this reference was intentional. If you remove the “s” on the end, that’s the name of Tails the Fox from the Sonic Series. --- ## [Do you want me to draw your character?](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/do-you-want-me-to-draw-your-character/14760)
**Author:** [@redxlaser15](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/u/redxlaser15)\ **Replies:** 9\ **Last updated:** [January 21, 2018, 5:08am UTC](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/do-you-want-me-to-draw-your-character/14760 "2018-01-21T05:08:07Z")
I haven’t done this before myself, and I’m certainly not the best at drawing. Unlike what I’ve seen from a lot of people I use a pencil and paper, so it’ll look different than the computer stuff. I’m certainly not the be… --- ## [Moneymaking methods?](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/moneymaking-methods/14824)
**Author:** [@psyxypher](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/u/psyxypher)\ **Replies:** 8\ **Last updated:** [January 21, 2018, 2:08am UTC](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/moneymaking-methods/14824 "2018-01-21T02:08:52Z")
I’m looking to make some cold hard cash for me and my band of companions. But killing zombies for Cash Cards isn’t doing it, at least, not fast enough. Are there other ways? Can I sell goods to the Refugee Center for st… --- ## [Being a large Mutant and Vehicles](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/being-a-large-mutant-and-vehicles/14822)
**Author:** [@psyxypher](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/u/psyxypher)\ **Replies:** 3\ **Last updated:** [January 20, 2018, 5:00pm UTC](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/being-a-large-mutant-and-vehicles/14822 "2018-01-20T17:00:12Z")
I know that having a mutation that makes you larger also makes you experience pain while in a vehicle, but how bad is it? Is it something that’s negligible with the proper Bionics and Mutations? Or is it something I shou… --- ## [How do I use the Inventory in Experimental?](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/how-do-i-use-the-inventory-in-experimental/14820)
**Author:** [@Aspiring\_Mutant](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/u/Aspiring_Mutant)\ **Replies:** 4\ **Last updated:** [January 19, 2018, 8:27pm UTC](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/how-do-i-use-the-inventory-in-experimental/14820 "2018-01-19T20:27:23Z")
I’ve been crawling the ruins of the Cataclysm for two years now, and a few hours ago I decided to make the jump to the experimental version. The improvements are phenomenal, but one thing is preventing me from taking my … --- ## [Why do zombies like to strip you?](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/why-do-zombies-like-to-strip-you/14782)
**Author:** [@redxlaser15](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/u/redxlaser15)\ **Replies:** 7\ **Last updated:** [January 12, 2018, 9:09pm UTC](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/why-do-zombies-like-to-strip-you/14782 "2018-01-12T21:09:49Z")
Often in the early game at least, zombies have a tendency to try and tear off my clothing. Does anyone know why zombies are perverts? Even in death they retain their rather inappropriate desires it seems… Also, would th… --- ## [Deathmobile Building Questions](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/deathmobile-building-questions/14746)
**Author:** [@psyxypher](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/u/psyxypher)\ **Replies:** 10\ **Last updated:** [January 12, 2018, 6:30pm UTC](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/deathmobile-building-questions/14746 "2018-01-12T18:30:10Z")
So, I have the resources to make an Upgraded Solar Array, and before I did I wanted to ask a few important question. First off, do they still work, and second off, are they worth it? I happen to have two spots inside my … [Previous page](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/c/game-talk/the-bunker/6.md?page=68) [Next page](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/c/game-talk/the-bunker/6.md?page=70)