# Game Talk

**URL:** https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/c/game-talk/27.md?page=75

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## [Vehicle Speed Wrong when many enemies on screen](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/vehicle-speed-wrong-when-many-enemies-on-screen/24377)

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**Author:** [@Grimm\_Spector](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/u/Grimm_Spector)\
**Replies:** 4\
**Last updated:** [August 7, 2020, 10:53pm UTC](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/vehicle-speed-wrong-when-many-enemies-on-screen/24377 "2020-08-07T22:53:36Z")

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Driving a bike at ~50 km/h, works fine, I move several tilefor every second I pass and most zombies move on tile. However, if there’s a few dozen zombies on the screen, when I pass a second they move 1 tile, but then I …

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## [Cosmetic graves](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/cosmetic-graves/24350)

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**Author:** [@anonanon](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/u/anonanon)\
**Replies:** 14\
**Last updated:** [August 7, 2020, 10:39pm UTC](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/cosmetic-graves/24350 "2020-08-07T22:39:06Z")

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so with the build menu you can make a coffin seal someone inside and bury it just had an interaction where an npc died I made a coffin where they were sealed them buried them and they promptly rose from the dead and att…

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## [\[SOLVED\](a)pply on dropped items - What determines pick up into Inv or leave on ground?](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/solved-a-pply-on-dropped-items-what-determines-pick-up-into-inv-or-leave-on-ground/24369)

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**Author:** [@Flare](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/u/Flare)\
**Replies:** 3\
**Last updated:** [August 7, 2020, 6:13am UTC](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/solved-a-pply-on-dropped-items-what-determines-pick-up-into-inv-or-leave-on-ground/24369 "2020-08-07T06:13:06Z")

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I noticed that there’s difference between (a)pplying items that are on the ground. Some of them my character picks up, but some of them my character leaves on the floor. What is it in the code that determines whether an…

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## [Smoke inhalation with Gas Mask Active](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/smoke-inhalation-with-gas-mask-active/24359)

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**Author:** [@Grimm\_Spector](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/u/Grimm_Spector)\
**Replies:** 17\
**Last updated:** [August 6, 2020, 10:46pm UTC](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/smoke-inhalation-with-gas-mask-active/24359 "2020-08-06T22:46:44Z")

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I have a gas mask with an active filter, but apparently I still get smoke inhalation? What the heck? Edit: It also doesn’t stop poison gas apparently either…so what the hell is the point of mask with filters if they don…

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## [Stamina and metabolic rate](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/stamina-and-metabolic-rate/24374)

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**Author:** [@Brian\_Cahoon](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/u/Brian_Cahoon)\
**Replies:** 1\
**Last updated:** [August 6, 2020, 9:51pm UTC](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/stamina-and-metabolic-rate/24374 "2020-08-06T21:51:52Z")

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I just updated to the latest experimental build and underneath where it shows the heat and sound in the “stats” side of the screen, there is now listed in white letters Stamina recovery and metabolic rate. Is this new? I…

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## [Heavily Modded Gameplay](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/heavily-modded-gameplay/24172)

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**Author:** [@Bruhman](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/u/Bruhman)\
**Replies:** 9\
**Last updated:** [August 6, 2020, 2:06pm UTC](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/heavily-modded-gameplay/24172 "2020-08-06T14:06:49Z")

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I’m trying to boot up an insanely modded world but, unfortunately, quite a couble expancions load with errors. Any suggestions about how can it be fixed or what’s the best version for such kind of thing, as i’m curren…

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## [Keep getting weird temperature issues](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/keep-getting-weird-temperature-issues/24303)

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**Author:** [@Brian\_Cahoon](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/u/Brian_Cahoon)\
**Replies:** 12\
**Last updated:** [August 6, 2020, 11:47am UTC](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/keep-getting-weird-temperature-issues/24303 "2020-08-06T11:47:40Z")

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So I was having this same issue the other day and now its back again. I was playing a character I had going for a few days when I died. So I made a new character but using the same world as my old character. On the new c…

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## [What stats will be trainable?](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/what-stats-will-be-trainable/24372)

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**Author:** [@spicyshadow](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/u/spicyshadow)\
**Replies:** 0\
**Last updated:** [August 6, 2020, 7:48am UTC](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/what-stats-will-be-trainable/24372 "2020-08-06T07:48:45Z")

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So with the option to use exercise equipment being added. There has been talk to add exercise as a mechanic to the game. So my question mainly to the developers is: What things and stats are you planning or should be im…

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## [0.E+ (10883) Mopping not working](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/0-e-10883-mopping-not-working/24323)

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**Author:** [@Grimm\_Spector](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/u/Grimm_Spector)\
**Replies:** 13\
**Last updated:** [August 6, 2020, 12:42am UTC](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/0-e-10883-mopping-not-working/24323 "2020-08-06T00:42:35Z")

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Trying to mop up blood and such, some squares with blood in them don’t highlight as moppable, other squares with blood highlight but I can mop them a dozen times and the blood doesn’t go away and it still shows moppable……

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## [Occaisional charge bug](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/occaisional-charge-bug/24368)

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**Author:** [@anonanon](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/u/anonanon)\
**Replies:** 0\
**Last updated:** [August 5, 2020, 10:30pm UTC](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/occaisional-charge-bug/24368 "2020-08-05T22:30:31Z")

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DEBUG : Item mask\_bunker was loaded with charges, but can not have any! FUNCTION : void item::io(Archive&) \[with Archive = io::JsonObjectInputArchive\] FILE : src/savegame\_json.cpp LINE : 2473 similar bug m…

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## [Zombies have no loot?](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/zombies-have-no-loot/24363)

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**Author:** [@Brian\_Cahoon](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/u/Brian_Cahoon)\
**Replies:** 2\
**Last updated:** [August 5, 2020, 3:07am UTC](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/zombies-have-no-loot/24363 "2020-08-05T03:07:15Z")

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Is there something wrong or a change got made that zombies no longer have items on them? Im on build 10895 and every time I kill a zombie it seems like all that is there is a bruised zombie corpse or whatever. They used …

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## ["Seen" indicators](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/seen-indicators/24287)

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**Author:** [@Grimm\_Spector](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/u/Grimm_Spector)\
**Replies:** 11\
**Last updated:** [August 5, 2020, 7:17am UTC](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/seen-indicators/24287 "2020-08-05T07:17:14Z")

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The “seen” indicators that indicate if someone/something sees the player, is there a way to get them working with other tilesets? I like the undead people tileset for instance. Thanks!

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## [Limit the books you can learn from based on intelligence](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/limit-the-books-you-can-learn-from-based-on-intelligence/24353)

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**Author:** [@spicyshadow](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/u/spicyshadow)\
**Replies:** 9\
**Last updated:** [August 5, 2020, 5:51am UTC](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/limit-the-books-you-can-learn-from-based-on-intelligence/24353 "2020-08-05T05:51:42Z")

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Given the current imbalance between the different stats in how important they are (strength is most important followed by dex or int depending followed by perception). I just came up with an idea to make intelligence a m…

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## [Arachnid Mutation Branch Suggestions](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/arachnid-mutation-branch-suggestions/24356)

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**Author:** [@IronThumb](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/u/IronThumb)\
**Replies:** 4\
**Last updated:** [August 5, 2020, 12:11am UTC](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/arachnid-mutation-branch-suggestions/24356 "2020-08-05T00:11:56Z")

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I’ve been tinkering a bit with the json files and tileset (specifically the UndeadPeople-master tileset) in order to create a modified Spider mutation tree. My goal was to give this mutation branch a makeover that reflec…

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## [Error log simple dragged vehicle crashes into companion](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/error-log-simple-dragged-vehicle-crashes-into-companion/24361)

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**Author:** [@PALU](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/u/PALU)\
**Replies:** 0\
**Last updated:** [August 4, 2020, 3:45pm UTC](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/error-log-simple-dragged-vehicle-crashes-into-companion/24361 "2020-08-04T15:45:17Z")

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DEBUG : map::board\_vehicle: passenger (Cecil Saldivar) is already there FUNCTION : void map::board\_vehicle(const tripoint&, player\*) FILE : src/map.cpp LINE : 959 ------- debug.log: --------------------…

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## [(Lore?)A bit confused by the Speed and some Stats lore setting thought](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/lore-a-bit-confused-by-the-speed-and-some-stats-lore-setting-thought/23004)

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**Author:** [@Tekeli](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/u/Tekeli)\
**Replies:** 16\
**Last updated:** [August 4, 2020, 7:13pm UTC](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/lore-a-bit-confused-by-the-speed-and-some-stats-lore-setting-thought/23004 "2020-08-04T19:13:38Z")

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I’m bit confused by the setting of Speed, from the lore aspect. And some naive random thought. About Speed It seems like the game intentionally don’t want you to have high speed. You can only get speed modified by +1…

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## [0.F is coming soon!](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/0-f-is-coming-soon/24344)

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**Author:** [@KorGgenT](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/u/KorGgenT)\
**Replies:** 13\
**Last updated:** [August 4, 2020, 11:06am UTC](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/0-f-is-coming-soon/24344 "2020-08-04T11:06:59Z")

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## [Joerg Spraves Inventions](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/joerg-spraves-inventions/24309)

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**Author:** [@NoahGoldFox](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/u/NoahGoldFox)\
**Replies:** 19\
**Last updated:** [August 3, 2020, 10:21pm UTC](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/joerg-spraves-inventions/24309 "2020-08-03T22:21:37Z")

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This mod is all about the various cool things Jorge Sprave has invented, and a few things he just reviewed. So far the mod includes: the instant legolas longbow : https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j9ycC\_2AC-g an instant…

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## [How do you use the minifridge to keep things cool?](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/how-do-you-use-the-minifridge-to-keep-things-cool/13479)

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**Author:** [@redxlaser15](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/u/redxlaser15)\
**Replies:** 7\
**Last updated:** [August 3, 2020, 7:28pm UTC](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/how-do-you-use-the-minifridge-to-keep-things-cool/13479 "2020-08-03T19:28:48Z")

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Just as it says above /\\ I placed the minifridge on the ground, but I'm not sure that anything got stored in it, does it NEED to be in a vehicle? EDIT: does a regular fridge work? And do you need to power either. I…

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## [CDDA Launcher Crashing during Save Backup](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/cdda-launcher-crashing-during-save-backup/24351)

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**Author:** [@Grimm\_Spector](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/u/Grimm_Spector)\
**Replies:** 0\
**Last updated:** [August 3, 2020, 5:01pm UTC](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/cdda-launcher-crashing-during-save-backup/24351 "2020-08-03T17:01:50Z")

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As the title says, and yes it is the most recent version, whlie doing a manual backup of saves the launcher is failing. It crashes during the backup and then when you load it up the latest backup is shown as 0.0 MiB for …

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## [Butchering in 0.E+](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/butchering-in-0-e/24288)

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**Author:** [@Grimm\_Spector](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/u/Grimm_Spector)\
**Replies:** 36\
**Last updated:** [August 3, 2020, 5:12pm UTC](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/butchering-in-0-e/24288 "2020-08-03T17:12:38Z")

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I can’t butcher even a small corpse, it tells me I need a tool with “Surface 2”, I figured that would be something like a table, but when I look it up on the item browser the only tool with the “Surface” quality is a bri…

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## [Where to find sand?](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/where-to-find-sand/24324)

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**Author:** [@Grimm\_Spector](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/u/Grimm_Spector)\
**Replies:** 2\
**Last updated:** [August 1, 2020, 1:19pm UTC](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/where-to-find-sand/24324 "2020-08-01T13:19:36Z")

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Anyone know where to find it?

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## [What are some of the most updated mods?](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/what-are-some-of-the-most-updated-mods/24332)

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**Author:** [@Fluffy\_Memes](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/u/Fluffy_Memes)\
**Replies:** 1\
**Last updated:** [August 3, 2020, 12:04am UTC](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/what-are-some-of-the-most-updated-mods/24332 "2020-08-03T00:04:28Z")

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OK so like a lot of the mods i try using ends up not being able to be used like extended buildings and some others do to what I’m guessing is the mod maker no long updating so i was hoping for some mods people use and k…

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## [Isherwood farm - where's Chris?](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/isherwood-farm-wheres-chris/23878)

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**Author:** [@GiggleGrassGatherer](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/u/GiggleGrassGatherer)\
**Replies:** 2\
**Last updated:** [August 2, 2020, 8:47pm UTC](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/isherwood-farm-wheres-chris/23878 "2020-08-02T20:47:08Z")

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Subj. Generated a new world and started right next to Isherwoods (first time I ever see this location). Can’t seem to find Chris - some of them say he’s out there patrolling the perimeter, Luke says he’s in horse farm ne…

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## [Vehicle Armor: Steel Plating vs. Military Composite](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/vehicle-armor-steel-plating-vs-military-composite/24340)

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**Author:** [@Bulletfang](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/u/Bulletfang)\
**Replies:** 2\
**Last updated:** [August 2, 2020, 6:12pm UTC](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/vehicle-armor-steel-plating-vs-military-composite/24340 "2020-08-02T18:12:12Z")

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I’ve come across these two types of armor countless times now, but I still don’t know what the difference is between them. They’re about equally rare, steel weighs more, composite has higher durability, but is there more…

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## [Bodypart Related Crash](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/bodypart-related-crash/24334)

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**Author:** [@ScarPan](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/u/ScarPan)\
**Replies:** 9\
**Last updated:** [August 2, 2020, 8:30am UTC](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/bodypart-related-crash/24334 "2020-08-02T08:30:33Z")

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Hi Guys, I just ran into a consistent crash that seems to relate to a Corpse’ bodypart when I move toward it. Below are the screenshots of the error messages: Summary Could anyone please help take a look and kindly en…

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## [Missing Vehicles after update](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/missing-vehicles-after-update/24337)

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**Author:** [@Grimm\_Spector](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/u/Grimm_Spector)\
**Replies:** 0\
**Last updated:** [August 2, 2020, 4:33am UTC](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/missing-vehicles-after-update/24337 "2020-08-02T04:33:33Z")

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I had stumbled across a couple of highly damaged mobile howitzers, which I’m pretty sure are from the blaze mod, after updating the experimental version, but also making sure my mods weren’t disturbed, I’ve found that th…

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## [Gun Mods and 0.E+ Ammo](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/gun-mods-and-0-e-ammo/24312)

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**Author:** [@Grimm\_Spector](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/u/Grimm_Spector)\
**Replies:** 1\
**Last updated:** [August 2, 2020, 1:31am UTC](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/gun-mods-and-0-e-ammo/24312 "2020-08-02T01:31:10Z")

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Looks like most of the real gun type mods no longer work properly, as they complain about ammo type being null and such. Anyway this can be fixed?

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## [Game claims I have no faction camps](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/game-claims-i-have-no-faction-camps/24336)

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**Author:** [@SpectralSquire](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/u/SpectralSquire)\
**Replies:** 1\
**Last updated:** [August 1, 2020, 11:30pm UTC](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/game-claims-i-have-no-faction-camps/24336 "2020-08-01T23:30:59Z")

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I’ve recently gotten back into CDDA (specifically playing on the experimental branch), and have been enjoying the various new features added. However, I’ve been running into a bizarre issue when trying to create a factio…

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## [Is tileset cause lag?](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/is-tileset-cause-lag/24331)

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**Author:** [@Delts](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/u/Delts)\
**Replies:** 1\
**Last updated:** [August 1, 2020, 11:17pm UTC](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/is-tileset-cause-lag/24331 "2020-08-01T23:17:57Z")

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so, im currently using UNDEAD\_PEOPLE tileset, im wondering is it causing lag? because my character when sleeping needs 30 secs till morning and some lag when driving a car(there is no stockpiles inside the car)…at base i…

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