# Game Talk

**URL:** https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/c/game-talk/27.md?page=518

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## [Material.cpp\[118\]: Tried to get invalid material: bone](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/material-cpp-118-tried-to-get-invalid-material-bone/2596)

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**Author:** [@talanos](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/u/talanos)\
**Replies:** 5\
**Last updated:** [August 7, 2013, 4:23pm UTC](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/material-cpp-118-tried-to-get-invalid-material-bone/2596 "2013-08-07T16:23:02Z")

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I had this pop up quite a few times caused all my unsaved data to delete DX so much hard work!

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## [How does trunk and box storage work?](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/how-does-trunk-and-box-storage-work/2586)

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**Author:** [@HunterAlpha1](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/u/HunterAlpha1)\
**Replies:** 15\
**Last updated:** [August 7, 2013, 2:53pm UTC](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/how-does-trunk-and-box-storage-work/2586 "2013-08-07T14:53:17Z")

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is it weight, volume, or a 75 item limit?

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## [Gasoline pump breakdown chances](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/gasoline-pump-breakdown-chances/2575)

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**Author:** [@HunterAlpha1](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/u/HunterAlpha1)\
**Replies:** 8\
**Last updated:** [August 7, 2013, 11:25am UTC](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/gasoline-pump-breakdown-chances/2575 "2013-08-07T11:25:51Z")

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so how does that work? the larger the container, the higher chances of breaking?

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## [How did you last \*own\*?](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/how-did-you-last-own/2558)

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**Author:** [@BadSniper](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/u/BadSniper)\
**Replies:** 9\
**Last updated:** [August 7, 2013, 9:03am UTC](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/how-did-you-last-own/2558 "2013-08-07T09:03:30Z")

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The exact opposite of the “How did you last die?” thread. Unfortunately I haven’t played recently, so I can’t remember how I last owned.

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## [Profession suggestion](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/profession-suggestion/2590)

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**Author:** [@Theinsomniac](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/u/Theinsomniac)\
**Replies:** 1\
**Last updated:** [August 7, 2013, 5:12am UTC](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/profession-suggestion/2590 "2013-08-07T05:12:57Z")

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Just a small suggestion for a profession “Last Man On Earth” The description should be something like: “You spent most of your time preparing for the apocalypse, now it’s here and you were the only one ready to surviv…

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## [Batteries](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/batteries/2356)

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**Author:** [@Mr\_Epic\_Cheese\_Man](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/u/Mr_Epic_Cheese_Man)\
**Replies:** 11\
**Last updated:** [August 7, 2013, 3:42am UTC](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/batteries/2356 "2013-08-07T03:42:20Z")

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Why do we need 100 batteries for a single flashlight?

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## [Bug with CBM: Electroshock Unit](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/bug-with-cbm-electroshock-unit/2584)

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**Author:** [@jacob4408](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/u/jacob4408)\
**Replies:** 2\
**Last updated:** [August 7, 2013, 1:17am UTC](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/bug-with-cbm-electroshock-unit/2584 "2013-08-07T01:17:13Z")

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Description states that this should work either unarmed OR with weapons that will conduct. From the code, it appears that it will ONLY work with unarmed. Description or (hopefully) functionality needs to be changed. se…

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## [Another question](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/another-question/2587)

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**Author:** [@Keyreper](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/u/Keyreper)\
**Replies:** 4\
**Last updated:** [August 7, 2013, 12:52am UTC](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/another-question/2587 "2013-08-07T00:52:18Z")

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sorry but i wanted to know if it would be better to update to the stable release or the Experimental Build (7.1 i think)

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## [Opaque glass-door fridges?](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/opaque-glass-door-fridges/2538)

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**Author:** [@KA101](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/u/KA101)\
**Replies:** 2\
**Last updated:** [August 6, 2013, 9:07pm UTC](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/opaque-glass-door-fridges/2538 "2013-08-06T21:07:00Z")

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Just noticed on the wiki: glass door fridges do not actually have the “transparent” tag. Ordinarily I’d call that a wiki error, but in my 28Jun I’ve also not been able to see whether a glass-door fridge contains anythin…

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## [NPC Destination Bug \[0.7.1\]](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/npc-destination-bug-0-7-1/2585)

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**Author:** [@Isidarth](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/u/Isidarth)\
**Replies:** 0\
**Last updated:** [August 6, 2013, 8:28pm UTC](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/npc-destination-bug-0-7-1/2585 "2013-08-06T20:28:20Z")

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I’ve had this happen in previous versions, but every now and again I get an NPC that seems like the game has to force them to move every turn instead of them moving on their own. Debug message log is as follows and repea…

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## [I've been asleep for days](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/ive-been-asleep-for-days/2537)

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**Author:** [@woofinator](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/u/woofinator)\
**Replies:** 12\
**Last updated:** [August 6, 2013, 8:08pm UTC](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/ive-been-asleep-for-days/2537 "2013-08-06T20:08:28Z")

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In the game I mean. I got a common cold, it’s like summer day 13 and I’ve had this cold for a few days now. Been taking dayquil and nyquil but it’s still lingering. But the interesting thing about this cold, is that sinc…

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## [Training archery to 9 in .71 without fighting](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/training-archery-to-9-in-71-without-fighting/2551)

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**Author:** [@youtoo](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/u/youtoo)\
**Replies:** 10\
**Last updated:** [August 6, 2013, 6:39pm UTC](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/training-archery-to-9-in-71-without-fighting/2551 "2013-08-06T18:39:54Z")

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Archery was nerfed. At low levels it is NOT useful. However at high levels it is far more accurate and you get access to better items. At 9 archery you get the best bow in the game. You need some mechanics skill to get t…

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## [Vehicle headlight can be bent?](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/vehicle-headlight-can-be-bent/2583)

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**Author:** [@zhj\_cn](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/u/zhj_cn)\
**Replies:** 1\
**Last updated:** [August 6, 2013, 6:09pm UTC](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/vehicle-headlight-can-be-bent/2583 "2013-08-06T18:09:38Z")

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i couldn’t try out a 2X4 headlights array which can light 360 degrees,But i found something strange. \[image\]

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## [Military Black Box](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/military-black-box/2570)

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**Author:** [@HunterAlpha1](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/u/HunterAlpha1)\
**Replies:** 4\
**Last updated:** [August 6, 2013, 5:49pm UTC](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/military-black-box/2570 "2013-08-06T17:49:22Z")

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ok i give up, what can i use them for? what is their purpose?

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## [General .71 obvservances](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/general-71-obvservances/2567)

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**Author:** [@youtoo](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/u/youtoo)\
**Replies:** 3\
**Last updated:** [August 6, 2013, 4:17pm UTC](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/general-71-obvservances/2567 "2013-08-06T16:17:30Z")

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Im spamming the forum. Sorry. Sorry Ill list somethings in highlight that I have noticed in .71. may have changed in previous versions. Please post what you noticed. low level archery is useless. however you can easily…

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## ["e" is totally OP](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/e-is-totally-op/2555)

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**Author:** [@KA101](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/u/KA101)\
**Replies:** 23\
**Last updated:** [August 6, 2013, 2:10pm UTC](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/e-is-totally-op/2555 "2013-08-06T14:10:06Z")

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Really, people, I’m disappointed that none of you posted this earlier. You go on and on about how archery is OP, guns are OP, vehicles are OP, and never notice the real cause of all these problems: The "e"xamine functi…

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## [Removing Railings?](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/removing-railings/2526)

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**Author:** [@Moreal](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/u/Moreal)\
**Replies:** 11\
**Last updated:** [August 6, 2013, 1:52pm UTC](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/removing-railings/2526 "2013-08-06T13:52:21Z")

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Is there anyway to remove Railing in cathedral? I blow some walls and start building Palisade gates to make awesome garage :smiley: but this railing in this building is problem. my Motorbike can’t past through it. I j…

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## [I need water!](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/i-need-water/2579)

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**Author:** [@Hyfrydle](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/u/Hyfrydle)\
**Replies:** 9\
**Last updated:** [August 6, 2013, 1:35pm UTC](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/i-need-water/2579 "2013-08-06T13:35:35Z")

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I’m standing in shallow water with a plastic bottle how do I fill it up? I really need a drink.

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## [Objects x, y location](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/objects-x-y-location/2443)

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**Author:** [@naraceaus](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/u/naraceaus)\
**Replies:** 2\
**Last updated:** [August 6, 2013, 1:22pm UTC](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/objects-x-y-location/2443 "2013-08-06T13:22:07Z")

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Hi guys, I’m trying to figure out the location system in the source code. I’ve realized that an objects x, y position is only relevant for about 11 tiles worth in a square. Then I think each 11\*11 square is stored in a …

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## [Error: item missing](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/error-item-missing/2539)

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**Author:** [@zhj\_cn](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/u/zhj_cn)\
**Replies:** 6\
**Last updated:** [August 5, 2013, 9:32pm UTC](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/error-item-missing/2539 "2013-08-05T21:32:27Z")

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0.7.1-408-gfcd0aca \[image\]

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## [Yet another balance whining](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/yet-another-balance-whining/2569)

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**Author:** [@system](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/u/system)\
**Replies:** 7\
**Last updated:** [August 5, 2013, 8:50pm UTC](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/yet-another-balance-whining/2569 "2013-08-05T20:50:43Z")

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So, after pondering around randomly and pretending that i’m smartypants thorough researching I’ve found some crucial things that should be changed - not immediately, geez, maybe they shouldn’t ever be changed if it’s too…

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## [Focus's affect on training](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/focuss-affect-on-training/2566)

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**Author:** [@youtoo](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/u/youtoo)\
**Replies:** 1\
**Last updated:** [August 5, 2013, 8:21pm UTC](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/focuss-affect-on-training/2566 "2013-08-05T20:21:31Z")

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Been messing around with a few builds in .71. Anyone notice that focus doesn’t seem to affect training as much as in the previous version? it is more based on the level of the skill and what you do than with focus. It se…

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## [How does clothing encumbrance work?](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/how-does-clothing-encumbrance-work/2549)

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**Author:** [@poweridler](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/u/poweridler)\
**Replies:** 8\
**Last updated:** [August 5, 2013, 4:22pm UTC](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/how-does-clothing-encumbrance-work/2549 "2013-08-05T16:22:39Z")

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So I was playing around with my clothing selection today and was getting strange results, and I can’t quite figure out why. When I wear 2 fitted cargo shorts (-1 encumbrance each) I come out at 0 encumbrance to legs, and…

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## [Weapon stats and skill in .71](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/weapon-stats-and-skill-in-71/2565)

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**Author:** [@youtoo](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/u/youtoo)\
**Replies:** 0\
**Last updated:** [August 5, 2013, 3:46pm UTC](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/weapon-stats-and-skill-in-71/2565 "2013-08-05T15:46:39Z")

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For those of us who want to backward engineer the game mechanics. This is based on my testing in .71. I have a couple different builds im running to test stuff out. None of which are that strong. I turned off skill rust …

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## [Is an easy Map/Building Editor possible?](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/is-an-easy-map-building-editor-possible/2493)

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**Author:** [@moist\_zombie](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/u/moist_zombie)\
**Replies:** 3\
**Last updated:** [August 5, 2013, 2:49pm UTC](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/is-an-easy-map-building-editor-possible/2493 "2013-08-05T14:49:09Z")

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Every time I play I end up wishing I could make my own preset buildings (houses of hoarders, an old barn packed with rotted corpses, a stoner pad or drug den, different outdoor areas, variants of existing buildings, thin…

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## [Radio problem in SDL #188](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/radio-problem-in-sdl-188/2563)

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**Author:** [@zhj\_cn](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/u/zhj_cn)\
**Replies:** 0\
**Last updated:** [August 5, 2013, 9:13am UTC](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/radio-problem-in-sdl-188/2563 "2013-08-05T09:13:54Z")

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the game doesn’t response with some type of radio message,then freeze. it occurs in both old-save player and new created player.FEMA camp and weather report can be received normally.

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## [Hidden bionics?](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/hidden-bionics/2560)

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**Author:** [@HunterAlpha1](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/u/HunterAlpha1)\
**Replies:** 2\
**Last updated:** [August 5, 2013, 8:41am UTC](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/hidden-bionics/2560 "2013-08-05T08:41:52Z")

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so the science lab near my base happens to be a bionics storage facilty(yay!). so i checked the manifest which had a total of five bionics on it. opened the containment fields, and nabbed three of them, but the other t…

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## [Are all .71 saves compatible with all .71 updates?](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/are-all-71-saves-compatible-with-all-71-updates/2533)

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**Author:** [@HunterAlpha1](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/u/HunterAlpha1)\
**Replies:** 6\
**Last updated:** [August 5, 2013, 2:21am UTC](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/are-all-71-saves-compatible-with-all-71-updates/2533 "2013-08-05T02:21:45Z")

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i’m wondering because i’ve been told that the nightly build allows you to mount headlights pointed in any direction and not just straight ahead.

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## [Challenge!](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/challenge/2207)

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**Author:** [@system](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/u/system)\
**Replies:** 27\
**Last updated:** [August 5, 2013, 2:14am UTC](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/challenge/2207 "2013-08-05T02:14:59Z")

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Purist - Use no mutagens or bionics your entire life. Rennaissance man - you cannot put any points into or take out of skills. Stump - you cannot take or place any points into stats. Permanent Escort Mission - Spawn a…

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## [Fire outside that doesnt go out from rain](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/fire-outside-that-doesnt-go-out-from-rain/2531)

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**Author:** [@youtoo](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/u/youtoo)\
**Replies:** 6\
**Last updated:** [August 4, 2013, 11:54pm UTC](https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/fire-outside-that-doesnt-go-out-from-rain/2531 "2013-08-04T23:54:57Z")

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Never made a shelter kit. Is it possible to build a fire outside that does not go out from rain? Preferably an early game way. It takes a while for me to find a welder most of the time. I started a new game today. Im tes…

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